Sounds like what you are trying to do is emulate the session pool/proxy
that the java api provides, using arsperl. I am not sure how you would
approach this. Most interpreted languages have a problem with persistence
with things like this, unless there is a way to serialize the data. I'm
not sure how you could do that with arsperl; just don't have the skills
and knowledge to work at that level.
I've contributed some to JOARSE, mainly to be compliant with the 7.x api.
I would not say the project is dead, it has been maintained, but it does
not have the widespread adoption of things like arsperl.
If you can, I would suggest waiting until 7.1 is released; to see if the
new java api is all that I am hearing it is. I am going to take a guess
that the new java api, if a complete rewrite/rearchitecture will be bug
ridden for some time, but the best way for things like this to mature is
for people to use it and report back to the vendor.
Axton Grams
That's what I get for writing an email in a hurry :) I wasn't all that
clear on what I was asking.
What I was asking originally was not how to maintain state (that I
knew), what I was wondering was if/how I could use references to a
server-side control record by way of tying it to an http session,
rather than create a new control record on every request. As far as I
can tell, that isn't quite possible in ARSPerl (or, at least I can't
figure out how).
The Java API/JSP/Servlet method was another avenue that I was
considering, but since I know Perl better than Java ("web" Java,
anyway), I started with ARSPerl.
I've been playing with the Java API for a few days now, and I'm
finding that it's not all that easy to use. I saw on ARSWiki that
there is an "api" to the API provided by the JOARSE project. Is anyone
actively using JOARSE or is it kind of a dead project? I was thinking
of writing a layer on top of the BMC Java API to make it easier to
use, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel if someone else has
already done something similar. I'd even like to contribute to the
project if there's a need.
Thanks for the feedback, by the way; this is exactly the kind of
information I'm looking for.
Mike
On 6/27/07, Carey Matthew Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Ref:
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/S/session_cookie.html
> http://www.allaboutcookies.org/cookies/session-cookies-used-for.html
>
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci752450,00.html
>
>
> IMHO... this is a bad way to keep state for a web site. It is client
side
> and could present security concerns if your browser is flawed. (Like
maybe
> the most popular choice... IE.)
>
>
> If I were you... I would start at a better staring point. Try the Java
API
> and go to the JSP/Servlet model for this approach. And here are just a
few
> reasons why:
>
> 1) Most ARS customers will have a web server capible of being a Mid-tier
> server. (And your interface might be helpful in some cases in addition
to
> the Mid-Tier.)
> 2) JSP/Servlets are a "later generation" and approach the web with more
> security options by design than CGI's ever had.
> 3) The Java API will be supported by BMC. ARSPerl never has been
directly
> supported by Remedy or BMC.
> 4) The new Java API is reported to be "totally Java" (no more JNI layer)
and
> that will make such a web interface as portable as any JSP engine out
there.
> And that will be more portable than any ARSPerl interface could be
because
> it will still be (as far as I know) a wrapper around the C API that has
> limited platform support.
>
> But that might be more work than your interested in too. ( I just think
it
> is a much better path to go down if you have any time to spend on such a
> major undertaking.)
>
> HTH.
>
> AND just to be clear... ARSPerl is great. It has served a very needed
niche
> in the ARS universe for years and I expect it to continue to do so. A
> command line Perl script is likely faster than a command line Java
program.
> However, there are support and maintenance issues to sort out too. So
for
> server side command line scripting... ARSPerl is still a good choice.
Time
> will tell if the new Java API can put a dent in that niche or not. ( And
> given the Filter plugin options... command line interfaces mostly should
be
> moved into that universe anyway.)
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
>
>
> On 6/26/07, Mike Wallick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Forgive me for being dense, but I don't understand how one would tie a
> control record that was created from a login routine, for example, to a
> session ID or similar. Given a session ID, how does one tie that to a
> control record that has already been created/validated?
> >
> > In other words, where does the control record "live" and how does one
get
> at it? Doesn't the control record "disappear" once the web server
request is
> complete?
> >
> > Mike
>
>
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