Hi Yossi, 
I've tried using a different browser. Still no users or groups listed. The
security descriptor in the advanced settings shows just
<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<security version="v7">
  <users/>
  <groups/>
  <acls/>
</security>

I tried copying the security descriptor from when it's running ok and
pasting into when it's not there but that made no difference and on restart
reverted to the empty xml as above.

Thanks for you help so far, 
James 

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