Hi,Jana, I used both units of kg/m3 and kg/kg,but get the same error of Run-time error in controlfile: my_2-2-3_liquid.arts Run-time error in method: abs_lookupSetupBatch I don't know whether this tag uses h2o_abs or not. Cannot set abs_nls automatically. Stopping ARTS execution. Goodbye.
I have confuse if there is the problem of others. Huang Yingzhu > -----原始邮件----- > 发件人: [email protected] > 发送时间: 2015年6月30日 星期二 > 收件人: [email protected] > 抄送: > 主题: arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 21 > > Send arts-users mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of arts-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 19 (???) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:27:54 +0800 (GMT+08:00) > From: ??? <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [arts-users] arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 19 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gbk" > > Hi,Jana, > this is my controflie as attached,and the running error is attached. > > Run-time error in controlfile: my_2-2-3_liquid.arts > Run-time error in method: abs_lookupSetupBatch > I don't know whether this tag uses h2o_abs or not. > Cannot set abs_nls automatically. > Stopping ARTS execution. > Goodbye. > > Thanks > > Huang Yingzhu > > > -----????----- > > ???: [email protected] > > ????: 2015?6?30? ??? > > ???: [email protected] > > ??: > > ??: arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 19 > > > > Send arts-users mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of arts-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 18 (???) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:39:43 +0800 (GMT+08:00) > > From: ??? <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [arts-users] arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 18 > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gbk" > > > > Hi,Jana, > > As your option 1,is that I set as follows? > > > > batch_atm_fields_compactFromArrayOfMatrix( > > batch_atm_fields_compact, > > atmosphere_dim, > > arrayofmatrix_1, > > ["T", "z", "liquidcloud-MPM93","icecloud-MPM93", > > "abs_species-H2O","abs_species-O3"], > > ["abs_species-O2", "abs_species-N2"], > > [0.2095, 0.7808] > > ) > > # WriteXML("output_file_format", batch_atm_fields_compact_all) > > > > Delete( arrayofmatrix_1 ) > > # Definition of species > > abs_speciesSet( species=[ > > "liquidcloud-MPM93", > > "icecloud-MPM93", > > "H2O-PWR98", > > "O3", > > "O2-PWR93", > > "N2-SelfContStandardType" > > > > ] ) > > but I got the error massage too, > > Run-time error in method: abs_lookupSetupBatch > > No field for absorption species 'liquidcloud'found. > > No field for absorption species 'icecloud'found. > > Your field names are: > > T z liquidcloud-MPM93 icecloud-MPM93 abs_species-H2O abs_species-O3 > > abs_species-O2 abs_species-N2 > > Stopping ARTS execution. > > Goodbye. > > > > What happened? > > > > Thanks > > > > Huang Yingzhu > > > -----????----- > > > ???: [email protected] > > > ????: 2015?6?30? ??? > > > ???: [email protected] > > > ??: > > > ??: arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 18 > > > > > > Send arts-users mailing list submissions to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > [email protected] > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of arts-users digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 14 (Jana Mendrok) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:31:50 +0200 > > > From: Jana Mendrok <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [arts-users] arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 14 > > > To: ??? <[email protected]> > > > Cc: "[email protected] List Users" <[email protected]> > > > Message-ID: > > > <CA+DyGd6yminjRmzrA5WvJB=cZ=iFZjH==ekAiKkiW_==sgl...@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > it's in scattering folder of the arts-xml-data. > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM, ??? <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi,Jana, > > > > > > > > Yes,I have two vertion of ARTS,one is 2.2,one is 2.3.I run them by > > > > switched. > > > > The example control file in FOS There is a file to read as follows,but I > > > > have no the file of > > > > fosangles_360.xml,. > > > > ReadXML(fos_scatint_angles,"scattering/fosangles_360.xml") > > > > > > > > Can you send it to me attached? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Huang Yingzhu > > > > > > > > > -----????----- > > > > > ???: [email protected] > > > > > ????: 2015?6?30? ??? > > > > > ???: [email protected] > > > > > ??: > > > > > ??: arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 14 > > > > > > > > > > Send arts-users mailing list submissions to > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > > than "Re: Contents of arts-users digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Re: About ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd in batch calculation > > > > > (Jana Mendrok) > > > > > 2. Re: Storing HDF5 hydrometeors concentrations as particle > > > > > density field (Karen Ng) > > > > > 3. Re: Storing HDF5 hydrometeors concentrations as particle > > > > > density field (Jana Mendrok) > > > > > 4. Re: Contents of arts-users digest about use > > > > > ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd in batch calculation (???) > > > > > 5. Re: Contents of arts-users digest about use > > > > > ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd in batch calculation (Jana Mendrok) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:08:59 +0200 > > > > > From: Jana Mendrok <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [arts-users] About ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd in batch > > > > > calculation > > > > > To: ??? <[email protected]> > > > > > Cc: "[email protected] List Users" <[email protected]> > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > > > > > <CA+DyGd5LhRTCpp0OwXbwQGG2ULMbrf3aN20dybGq4EsuTok=6...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > Hi Huang, > > > > > > > > > > i think, one indeed can not use ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd for batch > > > > > cases. there might be a possibility to mimic its behaviour by a bunch > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > other ARTS workspace methods. but i can't say that for sure from the > > > > > top of > > > > > > > > > my head. give me like 2 days, and i'll check whether and what can be > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > Jana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:19 AM, ??? <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,all > > > > > > I want use ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd > > > > > > < > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/arts/docserver/methods/ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd> > > > > > > in batch calculation,and my atmfield is get from > > > > > > batch_atm_fields_compactFromArrayOfMatrix.So it does not generate > > > > > > the > > > > > > vmr_filed_raw. > > > > > > How can I use the ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd > > > > > > < > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/arts/docserver/methods/ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd> > > > > > > in condition that no vmr_filed_raw generated? Or is there other way > > > > > > to > > > > > > replace the ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd > > > > > > < > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/arts/docserver/methods/ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd> > > > > > > method to add a particle absorption to the calculation? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Huang Yingzhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > arts-users mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > Jana Mendrok, Ph.D. (Research Associate) > > > > > Lule? University of Technology > > > > > Department of Computer Science, Electrical and Space Engineering > > > > > Division of Space Technology > > > > > PO Box 812 > > > > > 981 28 Kiruna, Sweden > > > > > > > > > > Phone : +46 (0)980 6 7540 > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > URL: > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/pipermail/arts-users/attachments/20150629/1bf53bca/attachment-0001.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:40:24 +0000 (UTC) > > > > > From: Karen Ng <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [arts-users] Storing HDF5 hydrometeors concentrations as > > > > > particle density field > > > > > To: ARTS Users List <[email protected]> > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > Could anyone help me with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:06 PM, Karen Ng < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an HDF5 file containing data for 5 ice hydrometer types. ?I > > > > > believe I can use the number concentrations for the particle field > > > > > density since they tell the number?of particles of a particular > > > > > hydrometeor type per volume of air at each grid box. There are 201 x > > > > > 201 horizontal grid points (100 km x 100 km) and 50 vertical grid > > > > > points, 13 times (output every 5 min for 1 hr). ?I believe I can use > > > > > xmlStore to create a GriddedField3 xml file, but don't know how to go > > > > > about this. ?Could anyone help? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > arts-users mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > URL: > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/pipermail/arts-users/attachments/20150629/12f6fcc3/attachment-0001.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:55:35 +0200 > > > > > From: Jana Mendrok <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [arts-users] Storing HDF5 hydrometeors concentrations as > > > > > particle density field > > > > > To: Karen Ng <[email protected]> > > > > > Cc: ARTS Users List <[email protected]> > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > <ca+dygd430igrev_bzo9jmyv6t9nxumh7pugyvmnjkf0qy7w...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > Hi Karen, > > > > > > > > > > i assume you're talking about atmlab/matlab, which i'm no expert on. > > > > > > > > > however, most other people are in vacation right now, so i give it a > > > > > try... > > > > > > > > > > in the first place i'm not sure what exactly your actual problem is. > > > > > > > > > extracting the data from the hdf5 is fully on your responsibility. we > > > > > can't > > > > > help with this, i guess. > > > > > > > > > regarding preparing GF3 xml data out of it, you have to extract one > > > > > 3D time > > > > > > > > > snapshot at a time and put each time snapshot in a separate xml file. > > > > > each > > > > > GF3 data consists of 3 grid vectors (pressure, lat, lon) and the 3D > > > > > data > > > > > tensor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to use xmlStore you have to prepare the GF3 data into its specific > > > > > format. > > > > > i assume atmlab is using either cell arrays or structures for that. > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > one, i don't know. try to find it out from the documentation. or, > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > probably easier, use xmlLoad on an existing GF3 xml file and check > > > > > out the > > > > > format of the resulting data. i expect that input to xmlStore has to > > > > > have > > > > > equivalent format. > > > > > for putting you data into this said format, either build it up > > > > > yourself. > > > > > > > > > or, re-set the individual parts of the GF3 type variable that you got > > > > > from > > > > > xmlLoad-ing a GF3 xml file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or, alternative option, just check out the format of GF3 xml files > > > > > from an > > > > > > > > > example and write a little xmlWriteGF3 routine yourself in the > > > > > programming > > > > > language of your choice. the format is very simple and should be > > > > > reproducible using some basic string and number writing tools from any > > > > > programming language. > > > > > > > > > > hope that helps a bit. > > > > > good luck! > > > > > Jana > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Karen Ng <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Could anyone help me with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:06 PM, Karen Ng > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an HDF5 file containing data for 5 ice hydrometer types. I > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > > I can use the number concentrations for the particle field density > > > > > > since > > > > > > they tell the number of particles of a particular hydrometeor type > > > > > > per > > > > > > > > > > volume of air at each grid box. There are 201 x 201 horizontal grid > > > > > > points > > > > > > > > > > (100 km x 100 km) and 50 vertical grid points, 13 times (output > > > > > > every 5 min > > > > > > for 1 hr). I believe I can use xmlStore to create a GriddedField3 > > > > > > xml > > > > > > file, but don't know how to go about this. Could anyone help? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > arts-users mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > arts-users mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > Jana Mendrok, Ph.D. (Research Associate) > > > > > Lule? University of Technology > > > > > Department of Computer Science, Electrical and Space Engineering > > > > > Division of Space Technology > > > > > PO Box 812 > > > > > 981 28 Kiruna, Sweden > > > > > > > > > > Phone : +46 (0)980 6 7540 > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > URL: > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/pipermail/arts-users/attachments/20150630/16b5130d/attachment-0001.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:33:48 +0800 (GMT+08:00) > > > > > From: ??? <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [arts-users] Contents of arts-users digest about use > > > > > ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd in batch calculation > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gbk" > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I added scat_data_array to the abs_species "particles" and append the > > > > > pnd_field to the vmr_field, > > > > > > > > > but I get the errors as follows when run the > > > > > propmat_clearskyAddParticles. > > > > > > > > > > Run-time error at ybatch_index 0: > > > > > Run-time error in agenda: ybatch_calc_agenda > > > > > Run-time error in method: propmat_clearsky_fieldCalc > > > > > Run-time error in agenda: propmat_clearsky_agenda > > > > > Run-time error in method: propmat_clearskyAddParticles > > > > > Number of 'particles' entries in abs_species and of elements in > > > > > scat_data_array needs to be identical. But you have 1 'particles' > > > > > entries > > > > > and 0 scat_data_array elements. > > > > > > > > > > What happened? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Waiting for helping. > > > > > > > > > > Huang Yingzhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > URL: > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/pipermail/arts-users/attachments/20150630/89e19e52/attachment-0001.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 04:01:49 +0200 > > > > > From: Jana Mendrok <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [arts-users] Contents of arts-users digest about use > > > > > ParticleType2abs_speciesAdd in batch calculation > > > > > To: ??? <[email protected]> > > > > > Cc: "[email protected] List Users" <[email protected]> > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > <ca+dygd6syq+on9sdeaahqkmymseozc6q7cdgpnyywtdhz7t...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > Hi Huang, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hard to make sense of your own description without seeing your > > > > > controlfile. > > > > > > > > > > according to the error message you did NOT add an instance of single > > > > > scattering data to scat_data_array. > > > > > > > > > what do you mean by "added scat_data_array to the abs_species > > > > > "particles" "? > > > > > per scattering element to be considered you have to (a) add a > > > > > "particle" > > > > > entry to abs_species, (b) add/append the pnd_field(_raw) instance for > > > > > the > > > > > scattering element to vmr_field(_raw) and (c) add/append an instance > > > > > of > > > > > SingleScatteringData to scat_data_array. > > > > > > > > > > seems you missed the last. > > > > > > > > > > wishes, > > > > > Jana > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:33 AM, ??? <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I added scat_data_array to the abs_species "particles" and append > > > > > > the > > > > > > pnd_field to the vmr_field, > > > > > > > > > > but I get the errors as follows when run the > > > > > > propmat_clearskyAddParticles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Run-time error at ybatch_index 0: > > > > > > Run-time error in agenda: ybatch_calc_agenda > > > > > > Run-time error in method: propmat_clearsky_fieldCalc > > > > > > Run-time error in agenda: propmat_clearsky_agenda > > > > > > Run-time error in method: propmat_clearskyAddParticles > > > > > > Number of 'particles' entries in abs_species and of elements in > > > > > > > > > > scat_data_array needs to be identical. But you have 1 'particles' > > > > > > entries > > > > > > and 0 scat_data_array elements. > > > > > > > > > > > > What happened? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > Waiting for helping. > > > > > > > > > > > > Huang Yingzhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > arts-users mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > Jana Mendrok, Ph.D. (Research Associate) > > > > > Lule? University of Technology > > > > > Department of Computer Science, Electrical and Space Engineering > > > > > Division of Space Technology > > > > > PO Box 812 > > > > > 981 28 Kiruna, Sweden > > > > > > > > > > Phone : +46 (0)980 6 7540 > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > URL: > > > > http://www.sat.ltu.se/pipermail/arts-users/attachments/20150630/b99504a2/attachment.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > arts-users mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > End of arts-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 14 > > > > > ****************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > arts-users mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ===================================================================== > > > Jana Mendrok, Ph.D. (Research Associate) > > > Lule? 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