Hello Stefan,

thank you for your response:
Network transparancy: Yes, it is very tough to setup, was looking into
the code to see if I could figure out what it does, and then decided to
use esd combined with artsd. It is still pretty tough to setup then too
btw (esd works like a charm, artsd to esd requires some work depending
on the release I noticed). I am using it in a pure thin client setup, so
the client is not aware of many things at all, actually pretty static
configured. Now adding some devices to it like usb-storage and camera in
which the client again should only serve as a gateway and not as a
processing point, thus making the thin client as dispensable as
possible.

Anyway: arts not maintained: That is too bad. The quality of the product
shows by the fact that it is able to survive without a maintainer for
two years without large problems.

I am already poorly involved in some other open source projects, which
don't get enough attention from me however I find them higly interesting
(rdesktop, some kernel discussions, a video driver in the past). Never
been a maintainer and have no clue to do in a maintainer job.

KDE multimedia list:
I will look into that.

About sound quality:
My music is of too low quality, or my ears had to much already to hear 
quality differences (then again, it can also be my speakers which I got
from somebody else because he bought better ones (-: )

Thanks.

Norbert

On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 21:25, Stefan Westerfeld wrote:
>    Hi!
> 
> Well, there is the kde-multimedia List, where some issues regardings
> artsd are occasionally discussed. But the main problem is probably that
> there is no real maintainer right now; I used to write/maintain it, but
> approximately stopped about two years ago. As nobody else has taken
> responsibility, there is no one who consistently cares for the website,
> mailing list, and more importantly the codebase; although quite some
> people occasionally do some things.
> 
> About network transparency: its notoriously hard to setup, and even if
> you know how it works it usually doesn't do what you want (thats because
> parts of the aRts aware applications run inside artsd itself, and thus
> you for instance have the problem that noatun will load its mp3s from the
> servers file system, while you started it on the client); there are also
> security issues in some of the scenarios where you would want to use
> network transparency in (its a bad idea to run artsd as root and share
> it among all users: one user could compromise the system). So its
> usually better to use another sound server such as PolyPaudio/MAS/NAS/
> ESD for network transparency, and run artsd as a client.
> 
> About sound quality: the only things that you can trivially reconfigure
> are sampling rate and latency, and thus if you're hearing dropouts or
> the resampling of artsd is guilty (it does linear interpolation, which
> will make the sound quality worse if the sampling rate between the
> client and server differ much), you might correct something when
> changing these parameters.
> 
> But as generic as you state it, it could also be the XMMS plugin code,
> or something else; thus it might really need some investigation at code
> level.
> 
>    Cu... Stefan
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 12:30:42PM +0200, Norbert van Nobelen wrote:
> > I wish I knew. I have some questions myself too (about network transparancy)
> > 
> > On Wednesday 20 October 2004 11:59, Tomas Mezger wrote:
> > > hi norbert,
> > >
> > > is there a new list? where can i ask something like this?
> > >
> > > thankx
> > >
> > > tom
> > >
> > > Norbert van Nobelen wrote:
> > > >This arts list is dead. Do not expect any answer anymore.
> > > >
> > > >On Wednesday 20 October 2004 09:03, Tomas Mezger wrote:
> > > >>hi,
> > > >>
> > > >>i use kde and arts as sound server. i realy like it, because i can use
> > > >>licq and hear some music and there is no conflict with the sound!
> > > >>
> > > >>but i realy whanted to know why is the sound quality so bad while using
> > > >>arts and xmms. i have copiled xmms from source, and add the extra
> > > >>arts-plugin, because i thought this shuld be better as the rpm-version
> > > >>of FC2.
> > > >>
> > > >>if i use the oss output, the sound is much better!!!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>if anyoune can telle me how i configure arts, so tath i have better
> > > >>sound it would be great!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>have a while
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>tom
> > > >>
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