"You should take half of your own comments to heart. �I welcome facts but a congeries of facts is not equivalent to an idea."
Mario, We ought add that a conglomeration of quotes is an impressive though shallow substitute for analysis, reflection or an original idea. Try using your own words to defend or support what you believe. Had you employed a little creative/original writing, you might have addressed the 'fact' that `facts' are often abused, misused and lied with. As to facts visa vie factory, I'm curious what dictionary you're using; I find `facts': A statement or assertion of verified information about something that is the case or has happened, whereas a `factory': buildings with facilities for manufacturing. --- In [email protected], "Tyler, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should take half of your own comments to heart. I have never seen > anyone with both sides of his mouth completely double jointed. As you > clearly have your thesaurus and book of quotes nearby try looking up > hypocrite or double standard. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1251 > > > > > Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > In reference to your comment: > > facts. And they are facts, which are backed up by transcripts > > "Facts" come from the same root as "factory": to do or to make what we want. > > To wit: > > "All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called 'facts.' They > are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain. Who does not know fellows > that always have an ill-conditioned fact or two that they lead after them > into decent company like so many bull-dogs, ready to let them slip at every > ingenious suggestion, or convenient generalization, or pleasant fancy?" > -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. > > "I'm not afraid of facts, I welcome facts but a congeries of facts is not > equivalent to an idea. This is the essential fallacy of the so-called > "scientific" mind. People who mistake facts for ideas are incomplete > thinkers; they are gossips." -Cynthia Ozick (b. 1928), novelist > > "Facts are generally over-esteemed. For most practical purposes, a thing is > what men think it is. When they judged the earth flat, it was flat. As long > as men thought slavery tolerable, tolerable it was. We live down here among > shadows, shadows among shadows." > John Updike (b. 1932), author, critic > > Respectfully submitted, > Mario > > > > > > > > > > > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1251 > Date: 5/9/2005 10:52:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent on: > > Dan - > Thanks for reminding everyone of these facts. And they are facts, which are > backed up by transcripts from the meeting where Loffredo made these > comments. I have the tapes if anyone wants to listen to them. > Also, I played the tape on the show that covered this issue. Anyone > interested can check the archives on RestoreRadio.com. > Thanks again, Dan. > Maureen > > In a message dated 5/9/2005 4:54:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 15:54:03 -0000 > From: "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: APP Endorese Incumbents > > From APP > > "Loffredo is savvy and knowledgeable, and he understands the need for > both patience and for the long view. Mellina, though a lightning rod > for much of the anti-redevelopment criticism, has been a tireless > worker and understands better than most that the city's only hope for > building a better life for everyone in the community is to expand the > ratable base." > > Loffredo is obviously savvy enough to know which side his bread is > buttered on. The APP is a joke. They repeatedly refused to print my > response to Loffredo's public reversal on the Triangle sale and his > lip-syncing for Al Faiella, Asbury Partners' attorney. The Coaster > also refused to print it. The other day in NYC, Charlie Rangel > apparently reversed himself on the West Side Jets stadium. Every local > paper took him to task for it. I guess things in NJ are different and > the papers let elected officals betray their constituients. Remember > on May 10th that Loffredo tried to sell you a bill of goods. On Dec 15 > he stated that the values in both appraisals for the Triangle were too > low in his professional opinion. He brought up none of the "facts" > that he one week later tried to convince you really meant we were > getting $33 million for the Triangle. Contrary to his later > advertisement for Asbury Partners, he either was "not up on the facts" > when the ordinace was discussed, or he chose to purposefully withold > them from the public. In the end, his and Faiella's facts are hogwash, > they have nothing to do with the price we are supposed to get for the > Triangle. Remember on May 10th, this is the last real estate asset we > have left to sell or give away to Asbury Partners. Its worth several > millions of dollars, not the $400,000 Loffredo and cohorts are ready > to give it away for, and certainly not the $175,000 Asbury Partners > wants to steal it for. Why is this issue so important, because it > reflects how the majority voting block on the council has handled > everything with Asbury Partners. > > > Speak up - It's America!! > Maureen Nevin > Restore Radio 88.1FM - 4 Years on the Radio!! > Asbury Park's Own Live Talk Show > 601 Bangs Avenue > Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or > Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/ > <http://www.restoreradio.com/> > Call the show 732-775-0821 > Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 > > > _____ > > Yahoo! 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