First, I never had a change of heart.  In my original post I noted 
that I can't in my mind picture lights on any boardwalk.  I then 
posed a question to the group of whether the lights do matter.  Just 
a question Skip, not an assertion that they don't.  I believe one 
other gentleman on this board gave an answer that he thought they 
ultimately do matter.  I reveiwed some photos that Dan and I both 
posted, then left my opinion that I also believe they do matter - 
I'm with Werner that the decorative lights are best.  I don't see 
where my position is "indefensible" since I believe my position on 
the lights is the same as yours.


Sorry that you see the whole world as 2 camps - pro-Fishman and anti-
Fishman.  I call each issue as I see it no matter who I am 
ultimately aligned with on that issue.  I'm with Werner on the 
lights. 


--- In [email protected], "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> "Ease up Skip! ...we should have the decorative lights.  At what 
point
> do you stop trying to insult me with sarcasm?" 
> 
> I don't know?  I do know that when a writer unequivocally stakes 
out a
> position, backlash, attack and sarcasm come with the territory (I
> know, I do it and receive it all the time).  However, `insult' I
> suggest is in the eye/ear of the beholder, to which there's an 
adage
> about `kitchens'. 
> 
> Then too there is the unquestioning support for `all' (an oxymoron 
of
> the highest order), that Fishman does under this sad agreement. 
> Though there are surprisingly many sharing your opinion, you are at
> once, one of his most loyal and most effective writer/supporters,
> which makes you a particularly attractive target.
> 
> Finally, a well written, indefensible position, is such a sweet 
target
> that I have to admit complete loss of self control; and besides, 
I'd
> already written my response, fully enjoyed doing so and `of course'
> wanted to share, prior to reading your latter change of heart.  
> 
> What would you have me do, write a retraction?
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "bluebishop82" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Ease up Skip! I said after looking at all the photos I think 
Werner 
> > is right - we should have the decorative lights.  At what point 
do 
> > you stop trying to insult me with sarcasm?  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > "�the day on a south jersey boardwalk.  I have absolutely no
> > > recollection of what the lights looked like.  Do they really 
> > matter? 
> > > Does it really matter to boardwalkers what the lights look 
like?"
> > > 
> > > I'll bet the last time you walked in the woods; you couldn't 
see 
> > the
> > > forest for the trees.  Does it matter?  Probably not, 
certainly 
> > not to
> > > you; hey, aren't you the guy that gets excited about the 
prospect 
> > of
> > > seeing `big truck' races in Bradley Park?  Tell us do you see 
the
> > > trucks for the traffic?  
> > > 
> > > Whether in the woods or on the boardwalk, it's not the 
components 
> > that
> > > matter, it's the composition, the whole; it's an experiential 
> > `thing',
> > > you sort of have to do it to know it.  
> > > 
> > > Next time you're strolling, slow down, take a deep breath and 
> > relax,
> > > maybe you'll see something.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "bluebishop82" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Last year I spent the day on a south jersey boardwalk.  I 
spent 
> > the 
> > > > whole day on that boardwalk and into the night.
> > > > 
> > > > I have absolutely no recollection of what the lights looked 
> > like.  I 
> > > > remember the restaurants, the stores, the attractions and 
more.  
> > I 
> > > > can't for the the life of me remember the lights.
> > > > 
> > > > Do they really matter?  In fact I was in Atlantic City for 5 
> > days on 
> > > > two trips in the past month, an can't remember what their 
lights 
> > look 
> > > > like either.  
> > > > 
> > > > Does it really matter to boardwalkers what the lights look 
like?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Joe D'Andrea 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > At 1:08 PM -0700 5/18/05, Allan Peterson wrote:
> > > > > >nice but I was thinking more like it use to be.  Visit:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > ><http://www.side-o-
> > lamb.com/BoardwalkToday2.html>http://www.side-o-
> > > > lamb.com/BoardwalkToday2.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > Allan... if you mean the lights in the "then" photo.... 
Have a 
> > close 
> > > > look at the way the people are dressed. I would suggest that 
> > those 
> > > > boardwalk lights you see are the highway lights of the time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ~joe




 
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