"Skip you did it agian: Your post is filled with personal insults."
Kettle calling the pot black? What are we to make of " dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia-Nazi [and] Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City." Sorry Tommy, so long as you continue to give free reign to what I suppose you think compliments, I'll happily return the praise. --- In [email protected], "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skip you did it agian: > > Your post is filled with personal insults. I've asked you not to > address me in your posts. Will you respect my wishes please? > > > --- In [email protected], "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > "Larry did not comprehend that having a private investment of > several > > million dollars completed next to property that he owns is a 'good > > thing' and would increase that adjacent property's value. His only > > concern was that he get $2.5 million or nothing. Both Larry and the > > City got exactly that, nothing but a vacant lot, all due to bad > > planning or more accurately, no planning at all. Bad economics > rules > > in Asbury Park." > > > > You've hit the nail on the head. "Larry [does] not comprehend " > Tom > > and Dan J., despite all their singing of praise for the Fish, do > not > > comprehend that naming a real estate speculator a `Master > Developer' > > does not a developer make. Council joins in this confederation of > > dunces in not comprehending that throwing away prime city assets > for > > pennies on the dollar will guarantee nothing more than a huge > windfall > > profit for the dunce lucky enough to have stolen that lottery > ticket. > > > > It is not bad economics ruling Asbury it is a surplus of dumbness. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "bluebishop82" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Business is business. Tillie is dead > > > > because no one could re-coup a $16 million investment with > pinball > > > > machine quarters as a return. Economics rule (as it should). > > > > > > > > > > Tillie (The Palace) is dead because of not planning for it to > > > survive. At the time of the bankruptcy settlement the Palace > block > > > was zoned for amusement commercial uses. At that time the > original > > > carousel and ferris wheel had been purchased by private > investment > > > (Bill Sitar) and returned to NJ from Mississippi. > > > > > > It was well publicized that Mr. Sitar was prepared to redevelope > the > > > Palace block with an investment of several million dollars. Not > as a > > > pinball arcade, but as a first class family entertainment venue > > > combining historic rides with 21st century commercial and retail > uses. > > > > > > Had that been planned for, we would now (3-4 years later) have a > > > major tax ratable and tourism attraction instead of a vacant > lot. The > > > zoning on that site was changed to primarily condo use at the > request > > > of the 'master developer'. > > > > > > Yes there was a contingency for 1/2 the palace block to be saved > but > > > only if the Fishman's unrealistic price of $2.5 million were > met. I > > > had a meeting with Larry regarding this and attempted to explain > the > > > good business sense of striking a deal with a competent > developer > > > (Mr. Sitar). > > > > > > Larry did not comprehend that having a private investment (other > than > > > ones own money) of several million dollars completed next to > property > > > that he owns is a 'good thing' and would increase that adjacent > > > property's value. His only concern was that he get $2.5 million > or > > > nothing. > > > > > > Both Larry and the City got exactly that, nothing but a vacant > lot, > > > all due to bad planning or more accrately, no planning at all. > Bad > > > economics rules in Asbury Park. > > > > > > Werner ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
