--- In [email protected], "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote:
> >
> >
> The big question is "if" the city gets them back. If not I don't 
> think the planning board has the right to tell them how it should 
> look. Would you what them to tell you what your property should 
look 
> loke?

Whether you realize it or not the City has the right to tell anyone 
who wants to develop anything in AP what it looks like. That's the 
point of the planning board, zoning etc. In Ocean Grove they tell 
you what color you can paint. In our redevelopment zone this is even 
more so since there are definitive design guidlines including 
acceptable materials. 

 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Below is an excerpt of an email I sent to one of the council 
members 
> > on 2/3/2006. It WAS NOT Jim Keady, but one of the redevelopment 
> > subcommittee.
> > 
> > "Whether you take the Casino, et al back from Asbury Partners or 
> > dictate control, its rehabiliation and re-use should be put out 
in 
> > an RFP and a design competition held, much like was done for the 
> WTC 
> > memorial. The RFP would dictate the required uses 
(entertainment, 
> > cultural and recreationl, for instance) and design guidelines."
> > 
> > Thus, I suggested a month ago, before negotitations, that a 
design 
> > competition be held for our waterfront buildings. Now I see the 
> > Coaster has a story in this week's issue that that is exactly 
what 
> > is being suggested by members of the Planning Board. I guess 
great 
> > minds think alike.
> >  
> > Asbury Park Planners Suggest Contest for New Waterfront
> > By GARRETT STASSE
> > 
> > There could be a global architectural contest to redevelop 
Asbury 
> > Park's waterfront.
> > 
> > Tired of what they said was unsatisfactory design and other 
> > problems, two Asbury Park Planning Board members called for a 
two-
> > phase competition to encourage architecture's best and brightest 
to 
> > devise plans for how to redo the district, including the 
> > historically important Convention Hall, the Casino and other 
> > buildings.
> > 
> > 
> > Board members and city officials have been sharply critical of 
the 
> > pace of waterfront redevelopment and have been looking for ways 
to 
> > get Master Developer Asbury Partners to get moving. Board 
members 
> > have said they were displeased at some of the designs and plans 
> they 
> > have seen, so two of them, Matthew Berman and Sara Ann Towery, 
> > devised the competition.
> > 
> > They are members of the board's design review committee which 
> > reviews architectural plans. Neither would say which proposals 
> > disappointed them. Towery said the board "is frustrated with the 
> > piecemeal buildings we're getting. They don't relate to each 
other 
> > at all.
> > 
> > "Quite frankly I haven't seen anything that great."
> > 
> > "We've spent a lot of time discussing Asbury Park's 
development," 
> > Berman said. "We're standing at a crossroadsÂ… I'm so 
disappointed 
> > with what's going on so far."
> > 
> > He said he wants "iconic architectural masterpieces" that would 
> last 
> > for decades and define a new improved city. The historic 
structures 
> > would be restored but new buildings would have to complement 
them 
> to 
> > create a cohesive zone, he said.
> > 
> > The contest would be in two phases, one for ideas, and the other 
> for 
> > the actual work. Winning designers would oversee local or 
regional 
> > architects who would probably do much of the work.
> > 
> > "Competition would bring a lot of interest to the city," Towery 
> > said. "Architectural magazines really jump on these competitions 
> and 
> > I think we'll have worldwide interest."
> > 
> > Berman conceded the competition, which could begin in August, 
would 
> > likely delay redevelopment and require developers to agree to 
the 
> > designs. That prompted board member Rev. David Parreott to say 
he 
> > had reservations about anything that would slow the revival even 
> > more.
> > 
> > "I'm concerned this is going to cost the city time and money," 
he 
> > said.
> > 
> > Board member John Lofredo, who is also a city councilman, 
> questioned 
> > the timing.
> > 
> > "This could affect the timeline of what's going on right now," 
he 
> > said, referring to developer efforts to build along the 
waterfront.
> > 
> > Berman said the contest would not affect what's going on now but 
> > could help the city hold builders to higher standards.
> > 
> > "We want to make sure the city gets what it deserves," he 
> > said. "Developers over the last few years haven't demonstrated 
> > they're going to leave something desirable after they're gone."
> > 
> > The board approved letting them pursue the contest.
> >
>






 
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