hinge, I think we can all vagree its stupid for people to get out in thier
cars for non-emergencies. I think there are probably few people who are out
driving to get milk for thier coffee.

It sounds like you are saying both you and the city blames abandoned cars
for a lack of plowing... but these few abandoned cars are NOT an excuese for
only having one front end loader to try and move snow AFTER the fact for the
entire city.

 If there was a plan in place - a plan for snow removal that we the people
pay taxes for - they could have lessened the impact by plowing as it was
snowing, salting the roads, etc.

This is not an emergency yet. i am happy and have food at home and water and
electricity. I am however angry as hell that the city PD blows me off and
says it doesnt know when the streets will be plowed, the DPW doesnt answer
the phone and answering machine is full, and that there are no police out
there for public safety , or tow trucks to take care of abandoned cars or PD
to ticket the absentee landlords and lazy homeowners who have not yet plowed
thier sidewalks!!!!!!

Im fed up and im going out to shovel the damn street myself !!!!



On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hinge <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> I think we live in a hypocritical culture. Some people are all for "smaller
> government" but when it happens, and people feel the loss, they complain
> that somethings wrong. I find this to be ridiculous.
> The same people preach about personal responsibility...
> Ok, so we were getting report after report about a weather issue...did the
> paramedic, air traffic controller or heart surgeon make plans for a
> disaster?
> Probably not.
> Instead, when the disaster hit, it's easier to bitch about it than take the
> so called "personal responsibilty" and be prepared.
> We ALL heard the warnings. Yet how many of us got our cars stuck after the
> fact while trying to get things we should have had in the first place?
> What's more important? Having milk for coffee after forgetting to get some,
> or risking getting your car stuck and screwing with snow clean up progress?
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com>, "Doug M"
> <dougandcathy_mcqu...@...> wrote:
> >
> > So what you're saying is, if someone has a job as a paramedic, heart
> surgeon or air traffic controller, they should just stay home until city,
> county and state governments mount an adequate response to the snow?
> >
> > While I agree with your point about taking action instead of complaining,
> this is one case where the government response to an important need was
> inadequate. For example, Route 35 in Ocean Township looked like a war zone,
> even at 11 pm on Tuesday. At the same time, the parking lots of the Monmouth
> Mall, Wegman's, and even Red Lobster were all infinitely better than the
> state highway. Why are these private enterprises so much more capable of
> clearing the snow?
> >
> > ...and I'm a fairly liberal Democrat, but I can admit when the public
> sector F's up.
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected] <AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's amazing to me that so many people these days are anti-government,
> but when it doesn't work for them personally, it's the first thing they
> blame for their troubles.
> > > If you aren't happy, run for city office and try and make a difference.
> I think about it all the time. Maybe it's an eye opening experience about
> the reality of our city. Maybe not. But honestly, the amount of bitching
> about this snowstorm is ridiculous. It will be past history in a few days.
> Not life changing for a vast majority of us. If anything, it should be life
> changing in the way that it should teach each and every one of us to be
> prepared. If you have plenty of food and water, then unless it's life or
> death you should stay home, not drive, and let the streets be cleaned ASAP.
> > > But no, people don't prepare, they try and drive, get stuck, and block
> progress. Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the
> middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that?
> > > Sometimes, people just need to be patient and stay home. Yes, your job
> might not be happy with that, but realistically speaking, what's more
> important, your job, your safety, or being part of a bigger picture where
> people think about "we" instead of "me"?
> > >
> >
>
>  
>


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