Hi Henk,

On 03/04/12 01:52, Henk Fikkert wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> thanks for your swift reply!
>
> The model development will at first aim at simulating the current 
> steam-cycle, and gradually include more detail on the equipment side. 
> I aim to model economizers, superheaters and radiative reactor 
> surfaces in deatail, but for the time being simple heaters, with just 
> a energy-rate will be ok. To understand and use ASCEND for this 
> purpose already is a big challenge for me.

OK this will be a great process to go through, some of these components 
are things that we haven't yet implemented, but I'd be keen to try to 
help out and expand our model library along the way.

>
> There will always be a minimal liquid load for the flash. Would it be 
> a problem if this weren't the case? I considered using the flash model 
> from the model library, but I also want to gain knowledge on what 
> ASCEND is about. As I plan to model the fire-side, the more chemical 
> part of our plant, this might be a future option.

So we will assume that there is also some liquid available to be 
evaporated, and we will assume that the phases inside the flash are 
always in equilibrium, and for the moment, we will assume a 
single-component flash, with only water.

>
> I don't need the heat input, it's considered an adiabatic flash. I the 
> past I used ASPEN+, and sometimes used the flash model to include a 
> heatstream. Would this heat-stream be a problem? The flash is 
> operating at the turbine low-pressure side : ~0.1 bar. I don't know 
> the pressure drop conditions yet.

We can start off without the heat input then add it later. I don't think 
it will be a problem.

>
> Another question : how could I use data from a DLL the best way. I do 
> have a chemical data DLL (HSC Chemistry) available, linked to a 
> thermo-chemical database. Is it hard to interface the functions (e.g. 
> H, S and Cp data , that's where the name originates from) with ASCEND?.

You can see two examples of code that integrates thermo properties into 
ASCEND:

http://freesteam.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/freesteam/trunk/ascend/freesteam_ascend.c?view=markup
http://code.ascend4.org/viewvc/code/branches/fprops2/models/johnpye/fprops/asc_fprops.c?view=markup

We haven't up to now done any integration with commercial thermo 
routines but it would be a good exercise to go through, and I'd be happy 
to try to help.

Alternatively, if you know exactly what your need is then I can try to 
extend our current FPROPS efforts to include whatever it is. I have 
recently started work on adding support for 400+ species with the data 
given in Reid, Prausnitz & Poling, specifically with support for the 
Peng-Robinson EOS and 4-term cp0 polynomials.

Cheers
JP


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