Hi James,

Only you know what your use-case is, so only you can judge if
something is "any good" by testing it.  Other than "I use it" nobody
can say much else.

Your description of "a book with some C/C++ in it" doesn't really tell
us anything, a question that is too open rarely gets useful responses,
either on an ML or in real life.

You made a comment that the project looked abandoned, and my replies
explained that the project isn't in heavy development because it does
what the developer needs, notwithstanding the listed problems (many of
which are OO/LO related).  The developer does not need to take it
further, so in the absence of input from other users the project does
not change much.  That provided you with the useful information that
it isn't abandoned but why it might appear so.

You might try Pandoc http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ to convert your
markup for testing.   It can also convert docbook to word formats, but
I have never used it and do not know if it is "any good" :)

In general the Asciidoc community doesn't need to target word
processor formats so there are probably not many users of the ODT
backend to reply to you.

Cheers
Lex

On 27 November 2012 09:30, james <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm sorry - but I'm going to argue.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Just in that very unlikely case when you really didn't understood sense of
>> reply you got from Lex Trotman (and not just trying to be a troll) I'll
>> try to explain.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 08:37:54PM +0000, james wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I'm asking '... and is it any good?'.
>>>>
>>>> It does what its developer wanted it to, depends if you want the same.
>>>
>>> Were your comments meant to be helpful?
>>
>>
>> Keeping in mind how "concrete" your question was, the answer tries to
>> deliver as much information as possible: it is good enough, at least for
>> it developer, so chances are it will be useful for someone else too.
>
>
> Actually, that gives absolutely no information at all, since there is
> somewhat limited information on the developer's website about what it DOES
> do and I CAN read.  And in any case, the author's use case may be quite
> specific and I though the way to find out would be to solicit experiences
> from others.
>
>
>>
>>>>> The project seems inactive.
>>>>
>>>> Because it does what its developer wants it to, and nobody else has
>>>> offered any improvements in other areas.
>>>
>>> Did I miss the bit that actually WAS helpful?
>>
>>
>> Yep, you miss it. That bit is: inactive project doesn't mean abandoned,
>> broken, useless, etc. Sometimes it's inactive just because it do it work
>> well, there no known bugs, and no one want/able/need to improve it.
>
>
> And we don't know in this case, do we?  The wiki suggests that there are
> definitely known limitations, but as a non-asciidoc user, its hard for me to
> determine how problematic they are in practice.
>
>
>>
>> Just stop talking and try to use it. And then report here your success or
>> failure, I think many will be interested in this information.
>
>
> And that's the point.  I'm not currently using asciidoc and its a
> non-trivial exercise to evaluate something.  So I thought I'd ask whether
> other people had used it and maybe come to understand what their experiences
> were, but the responses have been almost completely unhelpful.
>
> I say 'almost' because I can infer from Jens' post that it does indeed
> install and run in some capacity on someone else's machine and isn't
> completely busted, at least for some unspecified platform and asciidoc
> version.
>
> What is unreasonable in soliciting experience from others?
>
> What is unreasonable in thinking that 'hey, it worked for the author so try
> it' is essentially valueless?
>
> What do you think I should have done to make my question more 'concrete'?
> It was deliberately an open question soliciting practical experience.  How
> should I phrase it to avoid pointless responses like Lex's or yours?
>
> I'm not trying to troll, really, I'm trying to find out whether its worth
> investing time to try properly - which will involve moving from Sphinx to
> asciidoc (which, long ago, I tried and discarded, but I'm keeping an open
> mind).
>
> If I ask for others experiences, how - exactly - is it helpful to be told to
> go and get my own and report back?
>
> If I wanted to do that, I would have done it already: the reality is that
> I'm better off concentrating on my C++ code and documentation thereof, not
> messing around with yet another markup that may or may nor work out.
>
>
>>
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