> Grant wrote: > Somebody is now trying to write a formal specification.
Hi, that's me, Dan Allen. You don't have to talk about me like I'm not in the room. I'm right here. That someone is trying to initiate the effort to produce a formal specification. I'm not doing it all by myself (though I will certainly be contributing). > Those people are from the asciidoctor project and don't work on the original implementation. I've been involved in both AsciiDoc Python and Asciidoctor for many, many years. I was around when Stuart was still working on it. And I have contributed to AsciiDoc Python when it was more active. Even though I implemented the successor to AsciiDoc Python (and now leading implementation), I've stuck around to help maintain this implementation and keep the communities connected. So "those people" are these people. We're all pushing the AsciiDoc language forward. There's no disconnect. > I would guess they read the asciidoctor list more regularly than they do 'this' list (which is mostly about the original implementation). Again, I'm here. > That's why I suggested that the asciidoctor list would probably be a better forum. We do need a forum for the AsciiDoc language, and that's something that the infrastructure around the spec will provide. We will have a place to talk about the language without it getting mixed up with the implementation. I think that will bring the communities as a whole closer together. > Or the Eclipse Foundation just won't accept contributuions from individuals? Please don't speculate before reading the documents. You can find the general document about the Eclipse Foundation Specification Process here: https://www.eclipse.org/projects/efsp/. We also linked to blog entries that explain it in more depth in the original post: https://asciidoctor.org/news/2019/01/07/asciidoc-spec-proposal/. The AsciiDoc specification will have its own charter (which the working group has to ratify before anything else can happen, so nothing will be pre-decided). That charter can stipulate rules and exceptions of its own. What the Eclipse Foundation provides is a framework and a guiding hand. Best, -Dan On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 8:40 AM Grant Edwards <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2019-10-27, Jaime Tarrasa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I may me be wrong, but what I see now it is that we may have an original > > implementation of a markup language not clearly defined and a derivative > > work, asciidoctor, that studying the manual of the original > implementation > > has implemented and extends the original and fuzzy markup language. > > Yes, that's correct. The original developer of the Python asciidoc > implementation has moved on. Others spend some time maintaining the > original implementation, but AFAICT it's not really under active > development. > > Somebody is now trying to write a formal specification. Those people > are from the asciidoctor project and don't work on the original > implementation. I would guess they read the asciidoctor list more > regularly than they do 'this' list (which is mostly about the original > implementation). That's why I suggested that the asciidoctor list > would probably be a better forum. > > > That could end in the worst scenery for a standard format: Two > implementations > > competing to rule the standard. And obviously, never a third > implementation. > > I've seen no evidence that anybody is "competing to rule the standard". > > > Do you see what is the problem?. The question is how long have been > those > > nuances there. How all those nuances have been solved so far without a > > reference specification: Each implementation took his way. > > Yes, everybody sees the problem. We're all aware of the divergence of > the two implementations. That's why people are trying to write a > spec. > > -- > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "asciidoc" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/asciidoc/qp4hlt%244vft%241%40blaine.gmane.org > . > -- Dan Allen | @mojavelinux | https://twitter.com/mojavelinux -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "asciidoc" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/asciidoc/CAKeHnO5%3D3unyVCfTc4otNWH9ENBPFcna13bRka2ohawwYX%3DPpw%40mail.gmail.com.
