On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 14:55, Dan Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Any individual can join the Eclipse Foundation and the AsciiDoc WG as a > Committer Member. See > https://www.eclipse.org/membership/become_a_member/membershipTypes.php#committer > and https://www.eclipse.org/membership/become_a_member/committer.php
A committer involves more than just participating in development of the standard, it involves write access to the projects resources. So individuals who wish to contribute to the standard development, and have a vote in the process (which is not available to ML contributors) must necessarily have access to the repositories. That sounds like a risky approach. I'm sure everybody will work in the best will, but accidents occur, and documentation experts are not necessarily code repository experts. Also by Eclipse rules individuals cannot join as a committer, they need to be invited after experience, but how is that process to occur for document writers (as distinct from coders) who do not have coding experience, or for that matter coders who have no involvement in existing Eclipse infrastructure? IIUC in the past Eclipse has mostly taken stewardship of existing projects and their teams so this startup issue didn't occur. This is where Eclipse hasn't yet developed the "standards" process sufficiently IMO, its processes are all about software development. When developing a standard the users should be a significant part of the voting participants, not just the application developers. This has been my experience in the aerospace arena, even though standards there can be imposed by legislation, if user involvement is poor the results are poor. Requiring document writers to have write access to the standards repository to participate therefore seems inappropriate and unlikely to attract many. You have stated before that the process for the standards development can be modified, so here is the opportunity to see if Eclipse can accept individual standards participants without them having write access to repositories. Also just out of interest, how is it proposed that the "conforming implementation" be developed? > You can also participate without being a member at all. Just join the mailing > list(s). I already did, but kept this here in the interests of not making the first thread on the list a negative sounding one :) Cheers Lex > > -Dan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "asciidoc" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/asciidoc/CAKeHnO4-G6ThHQ3bL%3DSDDkePgsc1eXZbebdb_1rcniDRMJTrVQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "asciidoc" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/asciidoc/CAKhWKDOra5cDTY9pXiCVRQoJgTfBRrt78QU6CuxUve9rrthDGg%40mail.gmail.com.
