On 2/26/10 Feb 26 -9:00 AM, David McClain wrote:
> No, I take a stock LW6 system and want to load up the ASDF package as soon as 
> possible, so that I can then use ASDF to load in systems. When I take a look 
> at the PACKAGE-USE-LIST of CL-USER, it shows COMMON-LISP, 
> HARLEQUIN-COMMON-LISP, and LISPWORKS.
> 
> Have a look at the very front of the asdf.lisp file --- it places itself into 
> package :CL-USER. So we are screwed up from the get go. 
> 
> All I did was conditionalilze exports of two symbols that were already 
> exported from another package and which performed identical functionality, 
> and then I added a section to the rather elaborate package construction kit 
> for ASDF to permit the declaration of some shadowed symbols. Simple. 
> Effective. It works.

Faré's right.  There's something mysterious here.  We are only
momentarily in CL-USER, and only while we construct (or modify) the ASDF
package.  AFAICT the ASDF package modification/creation code only
manipulates uninterned symbols (if it doesn't, that's a bug), so there's
no way it should be messing up the CL-USER package.

Will you please clarify?

thanks,
r

> 
> - DM
> 
> On Feb 26, 2010, at 07:31 AM, Faré wrote:
> 
>> I don't understand. Do you mean that there is a problem when you (load
>> "asdf") itself, or are you trying to (use-package :asdf) from cl-user?
>> The latter is probably a bad idea, and wasn't supported so far (so far
>> I know).
>>
>> [ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org 
>> ]
>> Can anyone please squash this butterfly in Tokyo? I'm sick with its flapping
>> wings changing the outcome of my life.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/2/26 David McClain <[email protected]>:
>>> ... rather, in package :CL-USER, not :LW-USER. But apparently, LISPWORKS is 
>>> automatically being used in CL-USER...
>>>
>>> - DM
>>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2010, at 01:13 AM, Chun Tian (binghe) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, David
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it's necessary to make ASDF and LISPWORKS two packages live 
>>>> together. What you met can only happen when you try to defined a package 
>>>> which use above two packages at the same time:
>>>>
>>>> (defpackage xxx
>>>>  (:use :cl :asdf :lispworks))
>>>>
>>>> I don't think you have any good reason to use such a package.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chun Tian (binghe)
>>>>
>>>> 在 2010-2-26,15:44, David McClain 写道:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just installed the latest available source for ASDF and had to make a 
>>>>> few minor changes to the way the ASDF Package was being defined, for 
>>>>> compatibility with Lispworks 6.0: (changes highlighted in red -- if you 
>>>>> can see them)
>>>>>
>>>>>         ...
>>>>>
>>>>>           (ensure-shadow (package symbols)
>>>>>             (shadow symbols package))
>>>>>
>>>>>           (ensure-package (name &key nicknames use export unintern shadow)
>>>>>             (let* ((p (ensure-exists name nicknames)))
>>>>>               (ensure-use p use)
>>>>>               (ensure-unintern p unintern)
>>>>>
>>>>>               (ensure-shadow p shadow)
>>>>>
>>>>>               (ensure-export p export)
>>>>>               p)))
>>>>>    (ensure-package
>>>>>     ':asdf-utilities
>>>>>     :nicknames '(#:asdf-extensions)
>>>>>     :use '(#:common-lisp)
>>>>>     :export
>>>>>     '(#:absolute-pathname-p
>>>>>       #:aif
>>>>>
>>>>>       #-:LISPWORKS #:appendf
>>>>>
>>>>>       #:asdf-message
>>>>>       #:coerce-name
>>>>>       #:directory-pathname-p
>>>>>       #:ends-with
>>>>>       #:ensure-directory-pathname
>>>>>
>>>>>       #-:LISPWORKS #:getenv
>>>>>
>>>>>       #:get-uid
>>>>>       #:length=n-p
>>>>>       #:make-collector
>>>>>       #:pathname-directory-pathname
>>>>>       #:pathname-sans-name+type ;; deprecated. Use 
>>>>> pathname-directory-pathname
>>>>>       #:read-file-forms
>>>>>       #:remove-keys
>>>>>       #:remove-keyword
>>>>>       #:resolve-symlinks
>>>>>       #:split
>>>>>       #:component-name-to-pathname-components
>>>>>       #:system-registered-p
>>>>>       #:truenamize))
>>>>>    (ensure-package
>>>>>     ':asdf
>>>>>     :use '(:common-lisp :asdf-utilities)
>>>>>     :unintern '(#:*asdf-revision*)
>>>>>
>>>>>     :shadow #+:LISPWORKS '(#:load-system
>>>>>                            #:compile-system
>>>>>                            #:defsystem)
>>>>>     #-:LISPWORKS '()
>>>>>
>>>>>     :export
>>>>>     '(#:defsystem #:oos #:operate #:find-system #:run-shell-command
>>>>>       #:system-definition-pathname #:find-component ; miscellaneous
>>>>>       #:compile-system #:load-system #:test-system
>>>>>       #:compile-op #:load-op #:load-source-op
>>
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> 
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