On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Zach Beane <x...@xach.com> wrote: > Faré <fah...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Zach Beane <x...@xach.com> wrote: >>> Dave Cooper <david.coo...@genworks.com> writes: >>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Zach Beane <x...@xach.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't think I want to read loud announcements from ASDF. If it isn't >>>>> acting like I want, I'd rather read about how to make it do what I want >>>>> in a tutorial or manual. >>>> >>>> Loud announcement only in the initial ASDF release when the new default >>>> directory is first introduced. In subsequent ASDF releases the announcement >>>> would go away. >>> >>> I don't think it's a suitable way to communicate with me, even if it >>> only happens for a certain period of time. >>> >> I'm not sure what way of communicating you recommend, for changes in >> default behavior of ASDF or recommended practice in using it. > > I'd like to see the behavior clearly documented in the manual and > explained in a release announcement or blog post or tutorial or all of > the above. > > I don't want the software to print extra things out during some > transition period. > Oh wait, you're right, I hadn't realized that Dave had proposed ASDF printing a message at runtime.
Indeed, it's a bug for ASDF to announce anything at runtime, unless verbosity is explicitly required and/or a warning or error happens. The test suite actually includes a test-clean-load target that fails if loading ASDF emits any information. A TODO item would be to also test that using ASDF produces no output. I thought the "loud" announcement under discussion was to happen in the manual and release notes and while releasing the software — the usual procedure, just "louder" than usual due to major changes (yet still maintaining backward compatibility). My apologies for the misunderstanding. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org Every technique is first developed, then used, important, obsolete, normalized, and finally understood.
