Thanks for the great suggestions, Richard! I'll definitely give it a try! Blake
------- Original Message ------- On Saturday, September 23rd, 2023 at 3:48 PM, Richard Westhaver <richard.westha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Blake, > > I am relatively new to Common Lisp and agree that figuring out a decent dev > ecosystem can be challenging, the suggestions above are the best portable > solution IMO though - using SBCL, I added a single line to ~/.sbclrc : (push > #P"~/dev/" ql:*local-project-directories*). > > I think scaling this to really large and distributed systems is a challenge > though - you basically have ASDF and Quicklisp and it's up to you how you > want to make use of them. here's a couple ways I've seen others manage this: > > - fukamachi's qlot: https://github.com/fukamachi/qlot - project-local library > installer, currently being integrated into the Lem text editor > - nyxt (just use sub-repos): > https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/tree/master/_build > > It's Lisp so the perfect solution for your purposes does in fact exist, you > just gotta start hacking :). > > For example, I'm currently working on a very different approach which may not > pay off - dropping Quicklisp and all external dependencies, [ab]using the > compiler (SBCL) as much as possible and adding contribs which are distributed > with the compiler instead of separate systems. > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 10:56 AM Blake McBride <bl...@mcbridemail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for all of the replies! Although I have been playing with Lisp for >> many years, I do not have much experience with ASDF or QuickLisp. >> >> I appreciate all of the suggestions and explanations, however, with respect, >> they all seem like work-arounds or hacks for my purposes. I am not >> suggesting, however, that your input wasn't valid, helpful, or there is a >> better way. >> >> I understand the idea that QuickLisp is not a package manager but a system >> manager. In that case, it delivers completed system easily and conveniently. >> It's a great tool. >> >> I think a true package manager option in QuickLisp would be incredibly >> useful. Here is the scenario. >> >> I am building a system. It has dependencies X, Y, and Z. I complete my >> system and package it up as a QuickLisp system. Later, I'd like to work on >> my system. I'd like to work on a local copy in a directory of my choosing. >> I'd like it to load its dependencies (X, Y, and Z) yet work on my part of >> the system without loading the version in the QuickLisp repo. >> >> While some of your suggestions will allow me to do that, they are real >> clunky. Either I have to work in specific directories or I have to have >> special code specific to the particular directory I choose to work in. >> >> All of this is contrary to the way all other system I've used work. In >> general, I can clone a repo to any directory and do: >> >> ./configure >> make >> sudo make install >> >> and it works! I can put the clone anywhere I want. I can change it anyway I >> want. The system doesn't fight me. >> >> I wouldn't think this would be hard at all to make ASDF and QuickLisp have >> this capability. >> >> Blake McBride
