OK, thank you very much. The problem with ASDF on QuickLisp is a bug, so I hope to convince them to update ASDF.
чт, 21 нояб. 2024 г. в 20:29, Robert Goldman <rpgold...@sift.info>: > Thanks for the updates. AFAIK Xach is uninterested in bundling a newer > version of ASDF. I regret this, but there's nothing I can do about it. It > would be great to get a more up-to-date version of ASDF bundled with CLISP; > if there's anything that keeps that from happening, LMK, and I will try to > help and coordinate with the CLISP team. > > As I said, anything that the CLISP team could do to support ASDF testing > would be welcome. I am *somewhat* knowledgeable about the CL Foundation > Docker images, and have managed to roll new ones for SBCL, Allegro, etc. > for testing purposes, so I could help with Dockerizing CLISP if there's > anyone who's interested. > > On 21 Nov 2024, at 12:15, Alexandru Popa wrote: > > Hi Robert and sorry for not testing latest ASDF. The problem actually was > detected during playing with QuickLisp, and I was under impression it has a > relatively recent version of ASDF. > > Tested with ASDF-master (https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf), > version 3.3.7.2, :HAIKU, :OS-HAIKU, :UNIX and :OS-UNIX are all present, > which is probably good. > Tested with ASDF from QuickLisp (https://www.quicklisp.org/beta/), > version 3.2.1, :UNIX and :OS-UNIX are present, :HAIKU is removed. > Tested with ASDF from CLIPS (https://gitlab.com/gnu-clisp/clisp), version > 3.2.0, :UNIX and :OS-UNIX are present, :HAIKU is removed. > > So, the solution is just using a more recent ASDF version. I will > communicate this to both CLISP and QuickLisp teams. I will also ask Haiku > and CLISP teams to provide a docker image or testing. > > Thank you, > Alexandru > > чт, 21 нояб. 2024 г. в 17:45, Robert Goldman <rpgold...@sift.info>: > >> Please check [this merge request])( >> https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/-/merge_requests/147) and the >> corresponding >> ASDF issue <https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/-/issues/37>. >> >> Is CLISP bundling an up-to-date version of ASDF? >> >> Please let me know, and if the above do not address the issue, open a new >> issue on the ASDF gitlab site >> <https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/-/issues> and I will see about >> getting this fixed and issuing a bug fix release. >> >> It would be very helpful if the clisp community could point me at a >> Docker image for Haiku + clisp so that I could put this configuration into >> test. >> >> Indeed, it would be very helpful to have a CLISP docker image for linux >> kept updated for test purposes. The lack of an official release version >> hampers my testing substantially; so much so that I have dropped clisp from >> the test suite. It's impossible to know what to test when there hasn't been >> an official release in 14 years. >> >> On 21 Nov 2024, at 5:26, Alexandru Popa wrote: >> >> Haiku is an operation system different from Windows, Linux or *BSD. Still, >> in many respects it can be considered Unix-like, which is especially true >> when porting software to it. >> >> CLISP was recently ported to Haiku. In the *features*, CLISP on Haiku >> defines both :UNIX (i.e. Unix-like) and :HAIKU, and this is probably the >> right decision. However, after (require "asdf"), *features* are changed, >> :HAIKU is removed and :OS-UNIX is added. This is certainly something which >> needs to be fixed. The desired solution would be to keep both :UNIX, >> :HAIKU >> and to add :OS-HAIKU. >> >> Here is the analysis from CLISP development list: >> ``` >> (defun detect-os () >> "Detects the current operating system. Only needs be run at >> compile-time, except on ABCL where it might change between FASL >> compilation >> and runtime." >> (loop* :with o >> :for (feature . detect) :in '((:os-unix . os-unix-p) (:os-macosx >> . os-macosx-p) … >> (:haiku . os-haiku-p)) >> :when (and (or (not o) (eq feature :os-macosx)) (funcall detect)) >> :do (setf o feature) (pushnew feature *features*) >> :else :do (setf *features* (remove feature *features*)) >> :finally >> (return (or o (error "Congratulations for trying ASDF on an >> operating system~%~ that is neither Unix, nor Windows, nor Genera, nor >> even >> old MacOS.~%Now you port it."))))) >> >> That is somewhat brittle code that side-effects *FEATURES*. It contains a >> special bypass to allow :OS-MACOSX to live there beside :OS-UNIX, but >> there’s nothing equivalent for Haiku. Whether Haiku is considered a UNIX >> or >> not I won’t debate. >> >> I call such code /brittle/ because there’s an undocumented (non-explicitly >> mentioned) dependency on element order in some innocuous list: If >> :os-macosx were before :os-unix in the A-list, that code would not set – >> and rather delete – :OS-UNIX in *features*. >> >> I would have appreciated a tiny comment like >> >> :for (feature . detect) :in '(… >> (:os-unix . os-unix-p) (:os-macosx . os-macosx-p) ; Beware, >> unix must come first! >> ''' >> >> Alexandru Popa >> >> Robert P. Goldman >> Research Fellow >> Smart Information Flow Technologies (d/b/a SIFT, LLC) >> >> 319 N. First Ave., Suite 400 >> Minneapolis, MN 55401 >> >> Google Voice: (612) 326-3934 >> Cell: (612) 384-3454 >> Email: rpgold...@sift.net >> > Robert P. Goldman > Research Fellow > Smart Information Flow Technologies (d/b/a SIFT, LLC) > > 319 N. First Ave., Suite 400 > Minneapolis, MN 55401 > > Google Voice: (612) 326-3934 > Cell: (612) 384-3454 > Email: rpgold...@sift.net >
