Looks like CGI::FormBuilder/Template::Toolkit combined with
DBIx::Recordset is probably my best bet.  I knew about them
individually, but for some reason just didn't think to use them in
combination to achieve 95% of what I wanted... I'll still have to code,
but if I didn't have to code anything, what fun would it be!  And if I
ever do find anything better I'll be sure to pass it along.  FormBuilder
is pretty impressive looking so far - wish I head read over it more
thoroughly before asking the question.  Though it was a good exercise, I
think.

Thanks for the virtual whack upside the head. (doh!)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Chamas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:08 PM
To: Jim Helm
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: (slightly) RAD RDBMS tools for perl/Apache::ASP


Jim Helm wrote:
> 
> This isn't specific to Apache:ASP, but I've seen a lot of good advice 
> here, and hopefully someone has already been through this.
> 
> I was just wondering if anyone had used/knows of anything for perl 
> similar to phpLens.  I haven't actually used it, but it looks pretty 
> impressive.  I'd prefer to stick with perl, though.  I've searched 
> through CPAN, and on google, and haven't found anything obviously like

> phpLens for perl, but there's a lot out there and I may have just 
> missed it.  The closest I think I've seen so far is DBIx::HTMLView, 
> but it's only for mySQL and mSQL (needs some extra coding for other 
> DBD drivers - I think).
> 

I have always rolled by own application by application, but my 
apps have always had to be pretty tight to the database for 
high performance with mixed OLAP/OLTP environments.

If you feel that RAD does not have to be GUI RAD, I might look at these:

  CGI::FormBuilder ( promises 4x code reduction )
  DBIx::XHTML_Table

If you want something closer do the database, and don't mind doing your
own HTML, check out:

  DBIx::Recordset
  Alzabo
  
They at least abstract DBI slightly away from you.

> all the bells and whistles of phpLens - though they would be nice.  
> And I need to be able to make updates - simply displaying data is 
> fairly trivial, and I wouldn't need to ask for tools to do that - they

> are a

phpLens looks nice.  You you want something that is more of a CMS in
perl, you can try Bricolage or Mason:

  http://bricolage.thepirtgroup.com/
  http://www.masonhq.com/

Sorry, I don't think any of these quite hit it on the head for you, but
I thought I'd try!  Best of luck, and if you find anything interesting
please share it with the rest of us, as it seems to be a fairly common
problem.  Also, you might try the mod_perl list & I am sure you will get
some opinions :)

--Josh _________________________________________________________________
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NodeWorks Founder                       Huntington Beach, CA  USA 
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