Steve B wrote:

The
most notable design flaw is the tight integration
between the application and the display.   Perl code
is directly intermingled with the HTML page, making
the external management of the page elements nearly
impossible.

You're right, there is a lot of religion on this topic.

The way I see it, you can't be "pure" either way. You will always end up with some UI code in your application logic, or vice versa. And I don't advocate trying to separate them "as much as possible". That leads to holy quests, where what is being tested is your purity by the standards of the particular priest you're following, not the soundness of your design.

What I do is look for reusable code, and blocks of closely related code, and put that into Perl modules. The reusable code bit is obvious: no sense duplicating code, right? But I'll also collect together many related functions and put them into a class, and make that a Perl module. Most of these functions might be called from only one .asp file, so it's not a matter of reuse, but it is fair to say that all of these functions logically function together, so they should be kept together. This makes the most sense when these functions don't have any reason to contain any HTML.

For instance, I have a layer between the database and the UI code in my current project, and the code forming that layer is in a single large .pm file. They return raw data (hash references, arrays, etc.), which the ASP code then renders into a human-usable format.

The ASP code that calls these functions is a mixture of Perl and HTML: it might call a function in the module that returns an array of hash references, and use that to build an HTML table containing the data. That mixes some Perl code with my UI code, but that's fine. What matters is that the meat of the application code is separate from the UI code.

Another rule I have is that .asp files should contain mainly HTML. Code sections in other languages -- Perl, JavaScript, etc. -- should never be longer than will fit in your programmer's editor window. You should be able to see some HTML in the editor window at all times, because that helps you to keep your mind focused on the context of the application. When you're skipping over great swaths of "foreign" code to see how one HTML section works with another, you cannot see this flow. I like to keep these sections of code shorter than 10 lines, if I can. These snippets of code should be there just to glue pieces together, not to contain serious blocks of logic.

This isn't to say that I'll interrupt a block of, say, 30 lines of Perl code to spit out one pure line of HTML, just to divide that block and satisfy my previous rule. In that case, I'll often put the HTML into a Perl print statement, just to keep the flow of the Perl code going. Again, it's about maintaining flow...don't confuse the code's reader by switching between languages more than necessary.

You satisfy all of these rules at once by minimizing the amount of Perl code that needs HTML interspersed, and the amount of HTML that needs Perl in it.

I guess what I'm saying is, separation of UI and application code is a high-level rule that you do not follow directly. You follow many lower level rules that together create this effect, giving the illusion that you're following just this one high-level rule. You have to think in terms of the low-level rules, because it turns into a matter of heuristics: you'll have two or more options, neither of which is wholly right or wrong, and you'll have to make some kind of choice between them. Making that choice by following the high-level generalized rule can lead you into a mess, whereas weighing the many low-level rules against each other can make correct the path clear.

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