> So a current Universal sub entitles you to the "whole ballawax" when it's > released - is that what you're saying?
No, that's not quite correct. An MSDN Universal purchased prior to release of Team System, assuming it's still current when VS 2005 ships, will be upgraded for free to either Team Architect, Team Developer, or Team Tester. If you want the "whole ballawax," aka Team Suite, it will cost you $2,299 to upgrade from an MSDN Universal to Team Suite. However, since the estimated retail of Team Suite is $10,939, it will be cheaper to go out today and buy MSDN Universal ($2,799 retail) plus the $2,299 upgrade fee. That way, you get $10,939 worth of software for $5,098. It's still a price increase to reflect the enormous amount of extra value we've put in to the system, but it's less expensive than paying full retail price. One thing to mention is that we've just announced that anyone who buys any version of Team System will automatically get a five user license for Team Foundation Server, the server part of team system. The web site on this is at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/subscriptions/transition/ Details of the new levels of MSDN subs is at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/subscriptions/ Regards, Geoff Do you need to reach me quickly? My cell phone is (703) 328 0944. If you like what I'm doing, or hate what I'm doing, please e-mail my manager (Mike O'Neill) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let him know. I run free .NET training seminars for experienced developers, covering a wide variety of subjects. For more details, surf to http://www.msdnevents.com/ My blog provides information on developer events in MD, DC, VA, and WV. To find out what's going on for developers at user groups and Microsoft events, check it out at http://blogs.msdn.com/gsnowman/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AspNetMetroArea] Digest Number 487 There are 6 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: Team System and MSDN Universal From: "Rahul Singh ( Anant )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2. Re: Re: Team System and MSDN Universal From: Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3. RE: Digest Number 486 From: "Geoff Snowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4. Job Posting - US-Largo-MD - Senior .NET Developers - (Full Time) From: "Tom Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5. RE: Digest Number 486 From: "C. Woody Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6. Re: Re: Team System and MSDN Universal From: "Rahul Singh ( Anant )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:52:11 -0400 From: "Rahul Singh ( Anant )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: Team System and MSDN Universal What is the major difference between Subversion and Team. What major benefits are there other than the obvious GUI and better installation? Does it offer atomic commits? Rahul On 5/13/05, Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you follow the link from Rob Caron's post you'll see that it's not > quite as I said: > > Universal subscribers that want all of the client functionality of > Team System will be able to upgrade to Team Suite by paying just the > incremental software assurance or renewal price for the duration of > their agreement. In retail, this amounts to around $2300 and for most > customers this represents a 75% or more discount on the full price of > Team Suite. Volume customers will, of course, pay less. Renewals > continue at the promotional price for as long as you are an active > subscriber. > > So there you go. > > On 5/13/05, Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've struggled with how much do I blast this list with things I find, > > and believe me I spend more than enough time on the web to find a lot. > > Unless you ask for it I won't put out daily or weekly mailings of the > > "what's new on the web" variety but this was a fairly important > > announcement you ought to be aware of. > > > > If you're a relatively small shop (less than 5 people, particularly > > good for microISV's and independents) MSDN Universal will ship with a > > 5 license Team System for each of the role based systems. More > > details here: > > http://blogs.msdn.com/robcaron/archive/2005/05/12/416915.aspx > > > > Jeff > > -- > > Jeff Schoolcraft > > http://thequeue.net/blog/ > > > > Thycotic Software Ltd > > www.thycotic.com > > > > > -- > Jeff Schoolcraft > http://thequeue.net/blog/ > > Thycotic Software Ltd > www.thycotic.com > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- Rahul Singh CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:50:52 -0400 From: Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: Team System and MSDN Universal Team System is actually a series of components targeted to different roles within software development. * Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects * Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers * Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers * Visula Studio Team Suite (which incorporates all of the above) There used to be a wiki here: http://www.3leaf.com/wiki/ In a nutshell this gives you: SQL Server based "Enterprise Level" source control system (Developer Tools division is supposed to dogfood this once 2.0 is released aka whidbey). Unit Testing Framework. White horse and other architecture tools. Static and dynamic code analysis. You're supposed to be able to implement a series of rules to enforce your development process: You can't check in code unless it is assigned against a bug or open request, you can't check in your code if unit tests or FxCop fail, etc. It's putting all the various pieces together and having it update project schedules (in project and excel) and a bunch of other stuff. The key is it's all integrated. Vishwas Lele had a 160 slide deck about this, there were about 2 hours of video demos that came out after TechEd last year. On 5/13/05, Rahul Singh ( Anant ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the major difference between Subversion and Team. What major > benefits are there other than the obvious GUI and better installation? > > Does it offer atomic commits? > Rahul > > On 5/13/05, Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you follow the link from Rob Caron's post you'll see that it's not > > quite as I said: > > > > Universal subscribers that want all of the client functionality of > > Team System will be able to upgrade to Team Suite by paying just the > > incremental software assurance or renewal price for the duration of > > their agreement. In retail, this amounts to around $2300 and for most > > customers this represents a 75% or more discount on the full price of > > Team Suite. Volume customers will, of course, pay less. Renewals > > continue at the promotional price for as long as you are an active > > subscriber. > > > > So there you go. > > > > On 5/13/05, Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've struggled with how much do I blast this list with things I find, > > > and believe me I spend more than enough time on the web to find a lot. > > > Unless you ask for it I won't put out daily or weekly mailings of the > > > "what's new on the web" variety but this was a fairly important > > > announcement you ought to be aware of. > > > > > > If you're a relatively small shop (less than 5 people, particularly > > > good for microISV's and independents) MSDN Universal will ship with a > > > 5 license Team System for each of the role based systems. More > > > details here: > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/robcaron/archive/2005/05/12/416915.aspx > > > > > > Jeff > > > -- > > > Jeff Schoolcraft > > > http://thequeue.net/blog/ > > > > > > Thycotic Software Ltd > > > www.thycotic.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Schoolcraft > > http://thequeue.net/blog/ > > > > Thycotic Software Ltd > > www.thycotic.com > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rahul Singh > CEO > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- Jeff Schoolcraft http://thequeue.net/blog/ Thycotic Software Ltd www.thycotic.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 08:48:30 -0700 From: "Geoff Snowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Digest Number 486 Jeff wrote: > Universal subscribers that want all of the client functionality of > Team System will be able to upgrade to Team Suite by paying just the > incremental software assurance or renewal price for the duration of > their agreement. In retail, this amounts to around $2300 and for most > customers this represents a 75% or more discount on the full price of > Team Suite. Volume customers will, of course, pay less. Renewals > continue at the promotional price for as long as you are an active > subscriber. The bottom line is that if you want to acquire Team System when it ships, the lowest cost way to do it is to buy an MSDN Universal today and upgrade to either one of the role-based SKUs (no extra license fee) or Team Suite ($2300 upgrade.) Regards, Geoff ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 08:10:07 -0700 From: "Tom Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Job Posting - US-Largo-MD - Senior .NET Developers - (Full Time) New Directions Data Group furnishes a full range of solutions in the business intelligence and data warehouse sectors of information technology. Our service areas include: business intelligence, corporate knowledge management and high level applications development and programming. 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This is a full time direct role with our client. To apply for this opportunity you must have the required skills as described. We prefer local candidates, no agencies or third parties. Please forward a Word copy of your resume with your complete contact information and a convenient time to contact you to 34- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , or call us at (866) 999-8600. Sincerely, Tom Anderson Client Engagement Manager p (866) 999-8600 f (866) 999-0400 c (401) 996-2779 Intelligent People + Intelligent Solutions = Business Intelligence <http://www.nddatagroup.com> www.nddatagroup.com <http://www.nddatagroup.com> File #5469721C0F2B [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:06:49 -0400 From: "C. Woody Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Digest Number 486 So a current Universal sub entitles you to the "whole ballawax" when it's released - is that what you're saying? Once my MSDN Universal expires and I downshift to a role based sub (cuz I can't afford that much - I can barely afford a universal) will I still be licensed for the whole thing - grandfatnered in, so to speak? --woody C. Woody Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Geoff Snowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 08:48:30 -0700 >Jeff wrote: > >> Universal subscribers that want all of the client functionality of >> Team System will be able to upgrade to Team Suite by paying just the >> incremental software assurance or renewal price for the duration of >> their agreement. In retail, this amounts to around $2300 and for most >> customers this represents a 75% or more discount on the full price of >> Team Suite. Volume customers will, of course, pay less. Renewals >> continue at the promotional price for as long as you are an active >> subscriber. > >The bottom line is that if you want to acquire Team System when it ships, the lowest cost way to do it is to buy an MSDN Universal today and upgrade to either one of the role-based SKUs (no extra license fee) or Team Suite ($2300 upgrade.) > >Regards, > >Geoff > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at cwoodybutler.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:44:35 -0400 From: "Rahul Singh ( Anant )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: Team System and MSDN Universal Do they have particular cases where using team system increased output or increased quality of code? Rahul On 5/13/05, Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Team System is actually a series of components targeted to different > roles within software development. > > * Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects > * Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers > * Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers > * Visula Studio Team Suite (which incorporates all of the above) > > There used to be a wiki here: http://www.3leaf.com/wiki/ > > In a nutshell this gives you: > > SQL Server based "Enterprise Level" source control system (Developer > Tools division is supposed to dogfood this once 2.0 is released aka > whidbey). > Unit Testing Framework. > White horse and other architecture tools. > Static and dynamic code analysis. > > You're supposed to be able to implement a series of rules to enforce > your development process: > > You can't check in code unless it is assigned against a bug or open > request, you can't check in your code if unit tests or FxCop fail, > etc. > > It's putting all the various pieces together and having it update > project schedules (in project and excel) and a bunch of other stuff. > The key is it's all integrated. > > Vishwas Lele had a 160 slide deck about this, there were about 2 hours > of video demos that came out after TechEd last year. > > On 5/13/05, Rahul Singh ( Anant ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the major difference between Subversion and Team. What major > > benefits are there other than the obvious GUI and better installation? > > > > Does it offer atomic commits? > > Rahul > > > > On 5/13/05, Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you follow the link from Rob Caron's post you'll see that it's not > > > quite as I said: > > > > > > Universal subscribers that want all of the client functionality of > > > Team System will be able to upgrade to Team Suite by paying just the > > > incremental software assurance or renewal price for the duration of > > > their agreement. In retail, this amounts to around $2300 and for most > > > customers this represents a 75% or more discount on the full price of > > > Team Suite. Volume customers will, of course, pay less. Renewals > > > continue at the promotional price for as long as you are an active > > > subscriber. > > > > > > So there you go. > > > > > > On 5/13/05, Jeffrey Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've struggled with how much do I blast this list with things I find, > > > > and believe me I spend more than enough time on the web to find a lot. > > > > Unless you ask for it I won't put out daily or weekly mailings of the > > > > "what's new on the web" variety but this was a fairly important > > > > announcement you ought to be aware of. > > > > > > > > If you're a relatively small shop (less than 5 people, particularly > > > > good for microISV's and independents) MSDN Universal will ship with a > > > > 5 license Team System for each of the role based systems. More > > > > details here: > > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/robcaron/archive/2005/05/12/416915.aspx > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > -- > > > > Jeff Schoolcraft > > > > http://thequeue.net/blog/ > > > > > > > > Thycotic Software Ltd > > > > www.thycotic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jeff Schoolcraft > > > http://thequeue.net/blog/ > > > > > > Thycotic Software Ltd > > > www.thycotic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rahul Singh > > CEO > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jeff Schoolcraft > http://thequeue.net/blog/ > > Thycotic Software Ltd > www.thycotic.com > > > > > Yahoo! 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