<<<Some people in assam feel strongly against implementation of RIL in Assam and they have good reasons for it. That shouldn't stop RIL for the areas where it makes sense.>>>
I don't feel strongly against RIL. Sounds flippant but they are already connected--through the Sea. mm >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!! >Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:48:11 -0500 > >>Has the president ever said it is all of RIL that has to be implemented? I >>have >not seen such a statement. > > >**** And *I* haven't seen anything in which the the pres. has said anything >to CLARIFY that he is merely promoting RIL SELECTIVELY. > >There is also a good reason for it however: Because the concept of RIL does >not stand a chance of justification, even to its most ignorant supporters, >without the Brahmaputra waters; as was very clearly and persuasively >pointed out by Prof. Bandopadhyay of IIM-Kolkata , who undertook one of the >most exhaustive study of the proposal, at Guwahati sometime back. > > >>But I cannot accept that no change should be made to what nature has >> >established for us -------. > > >**** In the absence of context, such truisms mean little, if anything at >all. >Particularly when it is floated in the context of such outrageous proposals >as RIL. > > >And for those devotees of RIL mythology, I paste below something, that >might be of interest--from Riverlink Digest# 545, and hopefully the math >will help where ordinary reasoning fails: > > >Message: 1 > > From: "S.G. Vombatkere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Flood and Droughts > >Dear Friends, ># Further to Dinesh ji's (as usual, illuminating) note, anybody who thinks >that interlinking rivers (ILR) can solve Bihar's flood flow of 50,000 >cumecs in Ganga by removing 1,000 cumecs by means of a canal, wears rose >coloured spectacles or lives in a fool's paradise. This year, with drought >in Bihar when they usually have fl;ood, the situation is bad and will get >worse when the dry season begins. Is it at all likely that Biharis will >entertain the idea of parting with 1,000 cumecs in the dry season when >Ganga flows at about 5,000 cumecs and they themselves need the water? ># Yet this ILR idea appears to have ignited the imagination of people like >our President Kalam who has been vigorously advocating it with the aim of >solving flood and drought at the same time by inter-basin mass transfer of >water. When we met him on 20 April 2005, he had said that "my people in >Assam" and "my people in Bihar" suffer every year from flood, and he is >very much concerned with the problem. But he was not at all receptive to >the logic of the argument that a canal cannot relieve flood more than about >2% and that too only downstream of the canal. ># The current disaster due to floods in Mumbai is because water does not >drain away, and that in turn is because of artificial structures like roads >and railways (without adequate cross drainage), and encroachments in >waterways, and "reclaiming" of low-lying areas for constructions. {The word >"reclaiming" is incorrect because it was not with people earlier - it is >actually land grabbed from nature.} ># Interlinking rivers (ILR) will create canals that will directly obstruct >the natural drainage of the land and cause waterlogging. With unusually >heavy rainfall, there will be disastrous flooding like in Mumbai or in >Gujarat. One does not require a college education to understand these >simple things ... even a school child will see the illogic of ILR and >understand the cause of the disaster due to flooding. But then, without >being "unparliamentary", suffice it to say that some are born blind, some >become blind and some are made blind. Each of us needs to decide into which >category we fit. >Sudhir Vombatkere > > > >*************************************************************************** > > > >At 10:05 PM -0700 9/11/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: >>If one wants to draw a distinction between science and engineering, Dr. >>Kalam is not a scientist but an engineer by training. He may be an expert >>in rocketry but does that make him an expert in RIL? In the details it >>does not. But in concepts, it does not matter whether he did his doctorate >>in rocket engineering or in hydraulics. There are aspects of RIL that will >>be good for some regions in India. I agree everything that is proposed in >>RIL may not be good for all of India. >>Some people in assam feel strongly against implementation of RIL in Assam >>and they have good reasons for it. That shouldn't stop RIL for the areas >>where it makes sense. >> >>Has the president ever said it is all of RIL that has to be implemented? I >>have not seen such a statement. >> >>The arrangement of the earth in terms of hills and rivers is not the >>ultimate in design, it just happened due to natural forces. To change the >>arrangement is not a crime as some make it appear. Definitely care must be >>taken to rearrange what has been there for millenia. But I cannot accept >>that no change should be made to what nature has established for us. With >>an attitude of no change, life for human beings on this earth would be >>impossible. Should crude oil be processed into the hydrocarbons and >>plastics that we need in modern life or should we let crude oil remain in >>the ground because processing impacts the environment? >> >>Dilip Deka >> >> >>"Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>Excuse me for butting in here, C'da. >> >> >India's top self-appointed "scientist", APJ Kalam, from his bully >>pulpit at Hastinapur has >ignored/brushed aside >> >>"self-appointed" scientist? Isn't Dr. Kalam a recognized, well known >>scientist? >> >> >> >> >>From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!! >>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:46:33 -0500 >> >>blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;} >>Rajen: >> >>Two things to note: >> >>1: Do you keep tab on all that appears in Assam Net? If you do, how did >>you miss what I posted? >> >>2:Who is this "--- scientific co community" comprised of, and is capable >>of passing verdicts? >> >>India's top self-appointed "scientist", APJ Kalam, from his bully pulpit >>at Hastinapur has ignored/brushed aside the Indian scientific community's >>opposition to Riverlinking. So who is the 'scientific community' that you >>put your faith in? The people who know about rivers, hydrology, geology >>and the environment, or a rocket engineer, or who-have-you? >> >>c >> >_______________________________________________ >assam mailing list >[email protected] >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
