O'Deka:
Okkkay!
BTW, I have noooo idea about any of the questions you
raise.
I'll just wait to see how the demands, threats, parental
religiosity, the tennis player's own views, society's role and the
laws or (the lawlessness) of the land and the justice system's powers
( or lack of it) play out.
O'm
(Xaanti)
At 12:56 PM -0700 9/17/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
O'Mahanta,
It's a nice sunny day in Houston. We got our much needed rain yesterday.
I intentionally singlespace my postings so that you can't read between the lines. But you still try to. Is it a habit you can't shake off? :-)
Between the lines you read me wrong. I had no intention of judging the Mirza family's religious values. if you go back and read you will see that I wondered in view of the circumstances if the family religious values would impact this budding tennis player's future. This is what I'd like to see happen - Sania's father asks the "Jamiat whatever" what they think Sania's proper dress for tennis should be. Their response and prescription will clearly indicate what their intentions were - whether their comments were only about Sania's attire or about Muslim girls participating in an active sport like tennis. The other option for the Mirza family is to ignore it all and for Sania to keep playing.
By the way, was there ever an edict against any Bollywood actress - from any religious group?
O'Deka
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
O' Deka:
>P.S. The shenanigans of the control freaks (whether mullahs or saffron clad pundits) do not interest me but Sania's success in international tennis does.
*** I don't think anyone would have questioned that you wish the best for Sania.I am however certain that your concerns were for her parents' religious values :-) --outdated or modern that is, which would determine the outcome of the Mullah's edicts against Sania's tennis attire.I understand how those outdated religions make the modern people antsy.O' Mahanta(He-who-reads-between-the-lines) :-) :-)At 10:29 AM -0700 9/17/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
I wonder if Sania Mirza and her family have the strength to ignore what the mullahs are saying and not allow it to impact her game. She is a good player and to get world ranking 34 in such a short time is no small feat. I hope Sania will not allow any guilt feeling to enter her mind about her dress being sacrilegious and will just keep winning.
I wish her success.
P.S. The shenanigans of the control freaks (whether mullahs or saffron clad pundits) do not interest me but Sania's success in international tennis does.
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wow Ram, I must have opened the floodgates here :-).
Geez, I had no idea that there are so many control freaks. From
Dilp's post I thought that them Mullah's must be the only ones. And
what a pity no one to stop 'em!
Now what? Who will stop all these dress-police Ram?
c-da
At 3:42 PM -0500 9/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>C'da,
>
>> What do you mean "---there is always some self-righteous group which
>> tells us what NOT to wear"
>>
>> Is it not an exclusive Mullah territory?
>
>Not really. But I am sure the mullahs may have "invented" this idea of
>dress codes. And when you have a good idea, why shouldn't other such
>groups
>ape (and I don't me copy) them?
>
>Some examples (not exclusively Mullah territories):
>
>Saudi Arabia, the Taliban
>French Govt. not allowing religious symbols ! from large Crosses,
>burkhas, to Sikh turbans. (the other end of the spectrum - trying very
>hard to make everything non-religious).
>
>AASU, beating up fashion show contestants (girls) for not keeping up
>Axomia traditions of wearing the traditional mekhela chadors. (while
>they, the men, don't have to wear dhuti panjabi)
>
>Manipur militants enforcing dress codes (on women again), and willing
>to chop off limbs of evil-doers.>
>The Shiv Sena in Mumbai - closing down nite-clubs (dancing girls as
>they call it).
>
>Then you have NE girls being raped in Delhi, and our intelligensia
>would advice us that our girls should be careful and not wear skimpy
>clothes, and thereby entice the scum that go aound the capital dressed
>as men.
>
>So, there you have it - t! here is always some self-righteous group, a
>holier than thou, if you will, that sees no problem in enf! orcing their
>high ideals on the meek, the irreligious, the common Joe/Jane who are
>just trying lead their lives as best as they know.
>
>--Ram
>
>On 9/16/05, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>> Ram:
>>
>> What are you, some wishy-washy apologist?
>>
>> What do you mean "---there is always some self-righteous group which
>> tells us what NOT to wear"
>>
>> Is it not an exclusive Mullah territory?
>>
>> Heartrending to see no one is there to deliver poor Sania from the
>> tyranny of their Mullahs.
>>
>> c-da :-) :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 8:18 AM -0500 9/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>> >It doesn't matter where you are, there is always some self-righteous
>> >group which tells us what NOT to wear. This time it is the Islamic
>> >clergy telling S! ania Mirza what NOT to wear.
>> >
>> >Since when did Mullahs start watching tennis, and that too women's
>> >tennis? And why are mullahs watching women's tennis?
>> >
>> >_______________________________
>> >KOLKATA: Indian tennis sensation Sania Mirza will receive extra
>> >security after an Islamic group opposed to her on-court dress
>> >threatened to stop her from playing in next week's WTA event, police
>> >said on Friday.
>> >
>> >Muslim clergymen have denounced the 18-year-old player for wearing
>> >skimpy skirts and colourful sleeveless tops on court, which they say
>> >are un-Islamic.
>> >
>> >The teenager has emerged as one of India's most visible sporting icons
>> >following a sensational year in which she has climbed to 34 in the WTA
>> >world rankings.
>> >
>> >In a country dominated by cricket, companies are queuing up to sign
>> >endorsements with her.
>> >
>> >Mirza has refused to be drawn on the controversy over her clothes and
>> >is scheduled to play in Kolkata beginning on Monday, despite the call
>> >! by a powerful Islamic group to stop her.
>> >
>> >The group, Jamaat-e-Ulema-e-Hind, has warned that its members would
>> >try to prevent Mirza from playing if she did not wear "proper
>> >clothes."
>> >
>> >"What she wears offends Islam. She will be stopped from playing if she
>> >doesn't adhere to it," Siddiqullah Chowdhry, the group's chief, told
>> >Reuters.
>> >
>> >Police are tightening sec! urity following the call.
>> >
>> >"We are keeping everything in mind and not taking any chances. We are
>> >making special and strong security arrangements," Gautam Chakraborty,
> > >additional police commissioner of Kolkata, told Reuters.
>> >
>> >Scores of police officers are being deployed at the indoor venue for
>> >the tournament. Spectators will be frisked and will have to pass
>> >through metal detectors to enter the stadium.
>> >
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