Hi Mahanta da
Since you have come one step ahead, I don't mind going
forward two steps in the larger interest of the
debate we have been actively involved in for the last
many days. I stand by my earlier exercise of listing
out our strengths and weaknesses. No doubt, I accept
few points of yours here and there; but biggest chink
in the armour of your arguments is the tendency to get
swayed by a minor point leaving the main issue
unaddressed. As a result, we are deprived of a far
more enlightened and comprehensive analysis of the
issue by an intelligent and experienced person.
Consistency is often sacrificed at the altar of
irrationality and a misplaced sense of satire to
ridicule the opponents. So let us gracefully agree to
disagree on the main point raised by me. It seems a
few other netters are getting bored as we are locking
horns with greater vigour with every passing day.
I am definitely for plebiscite. Nothing in this world
is sacrosanct except probably continuous welfare of
the human race, that too, not at the cost of animal
and plant kingdom. Same thing applies to our
constitution also. Absence of the provision in the
constitution does not rob of its significance and
utility in the current socio economic condition in
different parts of the country. But in case of Assam,
let us have a broader view. Let it not be restricted
to yes or no. We should make endeavours to transfrom
it into a mechanism through which we can do some
introspection irrespective of the people's verdict.
Please post your views on the related issues which can
be put to the people along with the main issue.
I am sure the main verdict will not leave any be scope
to be subjective. It will be pure statistics which
will be very difficult to digest either for me or for
you. I am ready for it.
Are you ? Take care.
Mayur
Chandigarh
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mayur:
>
> Good to hear from you.
>
> But before we go on to a serious issue, like the
> idea of a
> referendum, or plebiscite , let us see if we can
> close the loop on
> open issues here, like your
> assessment of the people of Assam, such as
> emotionally
> immature/illogical, violent /murderous, so on and so
> forth, and how
> you arrived at those conclusions.
>
> >I swear you are an amazing bundle of
> contradictions.
>
> *** That may have some merit. But IF it does, it is
> a response to
> equally, if not more pronounced contradictions that
> you presented. I
> can detail them here, but in order move on, I will
> forgo that for the
> moment. But should you want an explanation, feel
> free to ask, I will
> be pleased to comply :-).
>
> *** Now then, do you continue to believe in the
> methodology and
> analyses of the kind you employed to assess those
> qualities of the
> people of Assam that you listed the other day? And
> then use those
> assessments to find solutions for the issues you see
> as problems?
>
> Why it is important to pin down, is that solution to
> 'problems' are
> dependent to correct definition of the problems. If
> it is vague, if
> it is faulty, the solution prescriptions would be
> too.
>
>
> > >At one place, you don't think twice to lambast
> me and
> >ridicule my exercise and again, at another place
> you
> >want my endorsement of your perspective.
>
> *** Does that surprise you? It should not have.
> Because none of us
> are forever imprisoned to either the 'right' camp or
> the 'wrong'
> camp. One can be right on some issues and wrong on
> others. I can see
> the notion was difficult for you to either
> comprehend or accept.That
> could also explain some of your previous comments.
> But I hope my
> explanation helps you with coming to terms with this
> seemingly
> unfathomable dichotomy :-).
>
>
> > > Otherwise you will accuse me of exhibiting some
> sloppy emotions
> >to drive >home a fact.
>
>
> *** Would that be out of place for a 'kharkhowa',
> as might be
> inferred from your assessments of our 'jaati' :-)?
>
>
> > >Jumping at the prospect of holding a plebiscite
> is
> >simply preposterous.
>
> *** Here you confound me again. But reading on, it
> appears as though
> you have had the wrong idea about what the word
> preposterous means. I
> attempted to place a possibly missed not in front of
> it. But that did
> not read right, considering your far above the
> average command of the
> English language.
>
>
> > >For me it is as simple as denying
> >the possibility of divorce to one's spouse when he
> or
> >she is not happy with marriage.
>
>
> *** But that is nothing uncommon , neither in the
> Indian context, nor
> in certain Roman Catholic communities, and who knows
> where else?
>
>
> >It is nothing but pure slavery.
>
> *** It might not be THAT bad, but sure does come
> close.
>
> > >Of course no one prevents us to make an
> >effort to change things we don't like. But efforts
> >should be pragmatic ans should not be driven by
> pure emotions.
>
> *** Words of the wise no doubt!
>
>
> So what is it Mayur? is the idea of of a referendum
> a good one or a
> preposterous ( grotesquely amusing) one :-)?
>
> Once we settle this primary confusion, we may be
> able to look into
> it further and see if the idea could be examined in
> more detail, and
> perhaps support for it generated, assuming you are
> for it.
>
>
> > >Another possibility of their apparent
> >disinterest may be you might have scared them
> enough earlier.
>
> *** You maybe right here Mayur. I do have a knack
> for instilling fear among my
> peers. What with my sympathies for ULFA and
> 'deep-rooted hatred of
> Indians' :-)?
>
>
>
> > >But Mahanta da, be ready to get shocked. The
> situation
> >in J&K is quite different than that of Assam.
>
> *** No kidding! You have to give some warning before
> you drop these
> bombshell revelations. The last check-up showed my
> ticker is in good
> shape, but hey, at my age, I have to be careful
> about sudden and
> unanticipated news like you break here. I have
> pretensions to being
> around for a few more years you know:-)?
>
>
> > You canalso tell those India fed Editors to take
> a vote among the
> >readers on the issue.
>
> *** I admire your faith Mayur.
>
> > However, for that also, subjective benchmark is a
> must. Presently
> >for Assam, >which is the bigger problem directly
> affecting common
> >people at villages?
>
> *** Uh-huh! I admire your feelings for them poor
> Oxomiya folks from
> the villages. A man after my own heart. But before I
> answer your
> question, why don't you tell us what your
> determination is, with a
> short explanation of how you came to that
> conclusion? Go ahead use
> your subjective benchmark. I won't complain anymore.
>
> For one thing, mine will be a long list, a litany of
> grievances that
> you wished you had not asked for. What is more that
> my list is not
> exclusive for the poor villagers only, seemingly the
> exclusive domain
> of your deeply felt concerns. Mine will address all
> those who do not
> have the luxury of talking down to their fellow men
> who have not made
> it, gaonlia and nogoriya alike :-).
>
> Best to you and more later.
>
> cm
>
>
>
>
>
> At 12:35 AM -0700 9/20/05, mayur bora wrote:
> >Dear Mahanta Da
> >
> >I swear you are an amazing bundle of
> contradictions.
>
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