The homeland / sovereignity issue is not the question
here.
The question stemmed from this:
"
It is a fallout of a profoundly faulty
> >> >> desi-demokrasy where political power is
> >> >> perpetuated along such medieval lines as
> caste,
> >> >> religion, language, culture and so forth.
"
It meant North Indian society is diseased because
power
is perpetuated along mediaval lines. I stated that
some of the response of the sovereignity movements is
just as mediaval.
Actually no suprises in the conclusion one can draw!
North Indian society, as you so disparagingly
concluded responds to events with the ills of caste
and religious distinction. NE society responds with
emphasis on parochial ethnic and tribal identities.
Both belong to the same boat, both are primeval
responses.
So if you say North Indian society is scum, so is NE
society. It is easy, and as has become a bad habit in
our region, to say that the ills come from North
India. And while people can continue deluding
themselves, the ills actually flow both ways and
because the people are really part of the same
society, they respond in similar ways.
I wonder why NE society did not respond differently
than it has done so far - like having a composite
movement that absorbs the aspirations of everyone. But
that is not possible, is it?
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 3:08 PM -0700 10/14/05, Rajib Das wrote:
> >ULFA is for the Assamese, NSCN-K for some Nagas,
> ATTF
> >is for the Tripuris, KLO is for the Kamtapuris,
> Bodo
> >Tigers is for Bodos, KRA for Kukis, something for
> the
> >Dimasas. I guess I don't have a list for the rest
> of
> >the communities.
>
>
> *** Now the question is WHAT made this necessary?
> I mean the homeland/sovereignty for the various
> ethnic groups? That IS the question, isn't it?
>
> And what would the answer to that be?
>
>
> Take a wild guess. And that is where my explanation
> comes into the picture.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >Oh yes, Lashkar-e-Tayebba for the Muslims, too.
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> At 12:54 PM -0700 10/14/05, Rajib Das wrote:
> >> >Yeah right!
> >> >
> >> >In the context of NE the only folks having
> >> perpetuated
> >> >political power along such lines are in NE -
> the
> >> >primary ones being those old boys in militant
> >> groups.
> >>
> >>
> >> *** That is a profound observation. But how
> about a
> >> bit of explanation?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> At 8:32 PM +0100 10/14/05, umesh sharma
> wrote:
> >> >> >Thats a very strange conclusion!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >What about separating tribal regions and
> Bodo
> >> land
> >> >> - from Assam -
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> **** What about it?
> >> >>
> >> >> It is a fallout of a profoundly faulty
> >> >> desi-demokrasy where political power is
> >> >> perpetuated along such medieval lines as
> caste,
> >> >> religion, language, culture and so forth. In
> >> >> spite of all those degrees 'phoren' or desi,
> >> >> Indian intelligentsia, by and large, is
> still in
> >> >> the dark ages about how a nation's issues
> ought
> >> >> to be framed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sooner Assam can shed the shackles of such
> >> >> desi-demokrasy burdens, sooner Assam and the
> NE,
> >> >> will be able to set foot on the path to
> >> progress.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > while you are adamant about creating a
> >> separate
> >> >> >identity based on regionalism and
> sovereignity.
> >> >> >Why not go back to the notion of
> city-states -
> >> >> >like Sparta and Athens or Jaipur and
> >> Patliputra?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Umesh
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >MM wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Only Sovereign Assam can save India "
> >> >> >
> >> >> >mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Chandan brought this Bottom 400
> million---
> >> >> >as food for thought for Assam netters .
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Only Sovereign Assam can save India -- I
> >> said
> >> >> >this before- many must have Cussed me-RAW
> >> >> >reported it , Frontline plastered this
> >> upstart
> >> >> >declaration. Ashok Saikia kept mum on this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Have Degrees-but Alas-no education---
> most
> >> of
> >> >> us suffer from that syndrome.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Yesterday I happened to hear in NDTV-
> Profit
> >> >> >:We had a fairly good monsoonthe peak
> wedding
> >> >> >season is around the corner, people are
> totally
> >> >> >style and brand conscious and we should see
> >> Gold
> >> >> >prices hit the ceiling
> >> >> >
> >> >> >There was triumph in this statementalmost
> >> India
> >> >> >Shining! All the Gold sellers -South Africa
> >> >> >,Dubai, London will be happy. Unabated $70
> oil
> >> >> >imports, now rocketing gold, next will be
> >> edible
> >> >> >oil import---.And nothing to export save a
> few
> >> >> >workers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Last week Rupee has taken the beating.
> Stock
> >> >> >prices slid 5% down . Vegetables price up
> >> >> >15%.FII's pulling out en masse.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Today CPI(M) is triumphing at Sonias
> surrender
> >> >> We will not privatize BHEL
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Where is CPIMs revival plan? Manmohan
> >> >> >-Economist or Banker? And grinning sly
> >> >> >Chidambaram-the briefless lawyerwhat is
> his
> >> >> >damage control plan? Or Trust in God?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dilip also must be wondering How it will be
> >> >> >possible: Tea to be doubled in 5 years what
> >> >> >could not be done in 120 years!
> > > >> >
> >> >> >Let me give you 2 clues
> >> >> >
> >> >> >India imports KCl. Assam can create million
> >> >> tons/year superior Potash K2CO3
> >> >> >
> >> >> >India has no Phosphorus nearest is in
>
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