Oracle-da, The need to provide priority to its own constituents over another sovereign state. The exact same reason why the India, Burma, Thailand road runs through Assam and Manipur and not through Bangladesh as is envisaged today.
To be the "redeemer" will take a significant amount of money and expertise. Money and expertise will come if the big powers agree to route through Assam. Taking the scenario of a sovereign Assam, if India does not give its confidence of using it as the economic center of the economic networks in that region, nor will any other country including China. These countries will make peace with the devil if the devil has the might to maintain order in the region. If India abdicates its responsibility to maintain order here, guess who else will? My guess - it will not be a sovereign Assam. Mikeda, we simply need more logic and more convincing :-) The alternative IMHO is not a growing cancer. The need for sovereignity is not established in a coccoon. Sovereignity is closely linked with economic prosperity and the addressing of opportunities. Does India have the military might to bring order to the region? Absolutely. At this point it is perhaps not prepared politically to have its own citizens pay the price that needs to be paid. The economic costs are not so high either. Like I said the prospect of returns can be so high, countries in the region will find a way - either to bring order or insulate themselves from it. The alternative - the growing cancer you talk of - is not something that the citizens of Assam will lap up. I guess we all know that the primary thing they want to get rid of is the cancer that has been with them for a long time - they don't want the militants carrying on their depradations on them and they do not want the Indian military in there. Any kind of pulse taken should show that people want peace to carry on their own individual drives for economic prosperity. Unless sovereignity provides them the dream of better opportunities NOW and that it is realizable without ANY further costs, there will be very few takers for sovereignity. Peace on the other hand will have the majority of takers. Like me, there would be many others, looking to see what are the ECONOMIC benefits (above all else) of a sovereign Assam versus the costs. We haven't seen anything logical as yet. --- mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --------------------------------- Think again. If Assam solves the crisis of K,P,N,Liquid Fuel and Energy-you have all the access into India and beyond asa mostn favoured Nation-a provider-a redeemer. Trade will always be balanced--not like with Arabs. All Imports And Exports will be in Indian Rupees at world raes. Win Win situation. What else could anybody need. Alternative will be a growing Cancer-which finally kills the host. (Oracle) mm --------------------------------- From: Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Assam] Karbi Anglong Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:18:04 -0700 (PDT) >Mikeda, > >I do not dispute your hypothesis that Assam could >solve the problem of potassium, liquid energy and >energy. I have not done enough analysis to comment >either way. > >What I do dispute is that a sovereign Assam will not >have access to Indian markets. That does not sound >logical since a state seized from India will be felt >inimical to it. Assam will never have any leverage >over the directions India takes in building out these >networks. > >In addition all those opportunities you talk about, >there are others - big ideas all - that can impact >both India overall and our region economically. Such >opportunities did not make sense in an earlier >generation of India where the leadership clearly >lacked vision and the public did not demand it. The >world in India today is different. People want >prosperity and are pretty impatient about it. Many >politicians have realized it and work towards getting >some work done. > >It is that time in India where the watchword is hope >and progress and by any account humongous economic >progress. It is into that India that the opportunities >of Assam will feed into. This requires an Assam that >is indelibly linked to India - not de-linked. > >Actually the way I see it - India (and Bangladesh and >Burma and USA and Thailand and USA and Europe and >whatever else is there) will get peace in our region >at any cost. If not for the love of Assam, this peace >will come because there is way too much money to be >made. > >For 40 years Assam was in the periphery - being a link >between worlds would bring the North East to somewhat >of an economic center. India will have an impetus to >make the NE that economic center over let's say >Bangladesh. Take a look at the map of the region. A >sovereign Assam would be irrelevant - India can easily >route the routes through Bangaldesh. > >The real question is: > >Should Assam rather be sovereign and not take >advantage of the opportunities you and I are talking >about? Or should we be a part of India and take >advantage of those? Would we rather have the jungle >reclaim us or move forward with a singular focus on >the prosperity of the region. > >Economically speaking I haven't seen a business case >built out for the former. > >It is in this context that we had a discussion some >time back as to what the objective for discussions >between ULFA and GOI should be - beyond the singular >word of sovereignity. > >People of NE benefit from having gotten as an outcome >of a negotiated settlement a humongous economic bonus >that the neglect of GOI and the depradations of the >militants have brought us. GOI will bite because >however huge an economic bonus will be far smaller >than the economic benefits that will accrue to both >Assam and India. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >--------------------------------- > >The Mother of Reasons of all human migration problems: >Bihari-Adibasi(maybe Jharkhand >origin),Karbi,Dimasa,Nagas(grabbing lower lands with >Delhi/CRP looking the other way)--- depletion of >Potassium from the soil. > >I wrote in the net that only Sovereign Assam can solve >India's food /unrest problem by supplying Potassium, >Phosphorus, PLUS half of India's liquid energy needs >--plus about half Electric energy needs. > >{No Sovereignty for Assam-- no Hope of " Great India" >EVER.} > >Promise I won't repeat this "Asinine" remark. > >mm > >mm > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >From: SP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Assam] Karbi Anglong >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:55:33 -0400 > > > >Rajib Das wrote on Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:20:04 -0700 > > > >+ I wonder what is the position of the Assam >separatists > >+ on this pernicious war between the two groups - >Karbis > >+ and Dimasas. > >+ > >+ Going by the total silence on this - I assume >either > >+ the separatists are not interested in that >conflict. > >+ > >+ I am sure there would be some that would put the >blame > >+ on GOI - the Great Satan. But then it would be too > >+ simplistic, wouldn't it? > > > >the issue is land. > > > >this is not the first time that there has been a >killing. > >some time ago upds killed some biharis. > > > >wait, wait---biharis in karbi anglong?! > > > >you would be surprised, but there are a lot of >biharis > >in karbi anglong. the biharis are those who have >been > >displaced from bihar due to---you guessed it---land > >alienation. the land alienation in bihar gave rise > >to and sustained the maoist communist center kinds > >and the opposing ranbir sena kinds, leading to > >occasional massacres there. the land alienation >problem > >in bihar has now been exported to the karbi hills. > > > >this problem now will touch all those in karbi and >other > >areas. it will pit one tribe against the other. it >will > >pit tribals against the illegal immigrants (as it did >at nellie > >some decades ago). and it will pit tribals against >biharis, > >bengalis and what have you. and the biharis and >bengalis > >will retaliate, as the biharis did following the upds >attack. > > > >if you are trying to take a few cheap shots at >militancy this > >time, please don't. well, for one, we don't know who >did this > >particular massacre. (most probably we will never >know---do > >we know who did nellie, so many years ago, or dimapur >railway > >station last year?). they were in black fatigues it >is said, > >but surprisingly they did not use ak-47's. they used >the village > >dao. they hacked the passengers and threw them into >the > >fire. in a way those at nellie used daos, bows and >arrows. > >this was not an ordinary political killing by >insurgent > >groups. this was tribal warfare. > > > > > >+ What is the solution to this and to a million >other > >+ mutinies that often are against each other and not >a > >+ part of the one great mutiny. > > > >the solution is land reforms, to begin with. >followed > >by other measures to protect and integrate the >tribals. > >this is the bare minimum. > > > >but this will never be done. was it done in bihar? > >(it was done in bengal, by the cpim. if they had't > >done so, those killed by the upds would have been > >bengalis, not biharis). most probably, the problem > >will fester, as it has done for so many years in the > >karbi hills, with an occasional massacre here and >there. > > > >the problem of land is not just something which has >been > >imported from bihar and which will impact only the >tribals. > >you might have come across news of at least two huge >rallies > >in assam in the last few months by people >(non-tribals > >mostly) demanding government pattas for their lands >and > >which turned violent. this is another powder keg we >are > >sitting on. > > > >xourov > > > >_______________________________________________ > >assam mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > assam mailing list > > [email protected] > > >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! 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