Title: Re: [Assam] Doctorate Hazarika may be wishing Assam to giv
>*** I may very well be. But I did not render the verdicts you did, without explaining.
 
And all along you were under the impression that you are the only one who has a right to give verdicts on Deshi Demokresi and GOI without explaining and others even don't have the right to publish the public opinion on ULFA or PCG.
RB

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Rajen:

>As I said I don't have time to explain all these details specially when I see you are far away from reality.


*** I can appreciate your not having time to explain. But having the time to deliver verdicts without any to explain or to defend them is not convincing.
Anyone can mouth off any-verdict or opinion. But they are dime a dozen, unless they carry some credible substantiation.


>Since you are supporting ULFA you should have been ahead of me on the issues.

*** I may very well be. But I did not render the verdicts you did, without explaining.


>Anyway this is my last explanation on the subject. 

*** Is it a threat or a promise :-)?


>The issue is between GOI and ULFA.

*** Yes. But that is only part of the story. The other part that is eluding you
is that ULFA is not an extra-terrestrial entity, nor does it sustain itself on B'Deshi air or monsoon rains. For twenty-five years, to fight the world's third
largest standing army, it needs a few things.

Guess who provides that? I know, I know, I present impossible to answer questions. But try it, it may not be as hard and formidable a challenge it appears to be from your opinions here.


>The impression is ULFA does not want to end the charde and that is why they are pushing the >PCG in the front as a cushion.

>The impression is the whole movie industry in Bangladesh is being run by ULFA.



*** I should have known. You prove yourself to be a highly impressionable person. Like all those editors of Sentinel, Statesman, Indian Express,
Desi Conflict Perpetuation Institute Analysts etc. feeding off the RAW trough , you too join the crowd.

But let us agree your impressions are THE unquestionable facts. I will even ignore the Indian Defence Ministry spokesman Sri. Regupaty, who said that they are unaware of ULFA's 5-star Hotel Ops in B'Desh, that these same impression makers have been wailing about for years. Now then, would you rather have ULFA be self-supporting on Dhakaiwood income, or have them come for untaxed Indian money from Assam?




> (BTW who is paying for PCG's expenses?


*** First, WHAT expenses? 5-star hotel expenses in visiting the hinterland ? Cell-phones ? Z-level security and chauffer driven autos? High-rise flats? First class air fare to Dilli? Childrens'education in foreign lands? What?


Anyway, I don't know who provides all those, whichever you had in mind. But what if ULFA is providing it?  What then? Would it make the PCG's task illegitimate?
If so, to WHOM? To the Rajen Baruas of Assam and those who,share his displeasures, or to the people of Assam? After all the PCG  has ULFA's confidence. Did you expect the expenses to come from GoI? Or GoA? Or do you want it to be from the PCG members' own pockets?

Anyway, how do you know if it is NOT coming from the PCG members' own pockets?

Or from the many impressions  you picked up in this visit, does it appear that PCG members are wealthy beyond their visible source of income, like all those loyal, law-abiding, moral Indian civil servants, elected reps and  ministers of desi-demokrasy that you hold in such high esteem, and thus should make their own contributions as penance for their sins?


>I don't see any incentive for ULFA to end the charade.

*** Of course , with your demonstrated expertise in the predictive arts, no
doubt an endowment of your desi-heritage, who could doubt that?

But I have a question of you, Mayur, Shantikam Hazarika, AT columnists, Sentinel Editors, Security Analysts  and the like, as to delivering your scientifically derived PREDICTIONS:

       
 
        A: To show the world HOW astute your analytical and observational
        skills are, that you already know what the rest await with bated
        breath? A case of one-upmanship over the clueless masses?

        B: To warn the unwary GoI, that ULFA is setting them up?

        C: To warn the people of Assam that they are placing FALSE HOPES ?

        D: Applying reverse psychology on ULFA and the PCG, to put pressure
        on them to capitulate?

        E: All of the above and/or something else?

But you know what? I have this uneasy feeling that the motive for the predictions is not something that is in the best interests of Assam, not
something that is either honorable or called for. I suspect there are others who would share my feelings here. But I will wait to hear , in your own words, as to your unsolicited predictions. Sorry, but I had to say it like it is.


>The Assamese people donot matter on this issue as they are not part of the game. They are the >victims.

*** Oh, I see. Now they are no longer in the group of NOBODY who want peace. They are just unrelated VICTIMS?

Where has your self described above average sense of logic gone to Rajen? You sacrificed it in the altar of setting yourself up as an astute analyst ?


>GOI is not a one person or one team to have a mind of its own. It has a policy. The impression is that on policy matters it wants to end the charade.

*** Hmmm, I see! And those who have policies must be right, must be for peace!  The highly impressionable oughtta know.

>I have heard even the Military personal in Assam donot want to end the issue as many are >making huge profits  (as the rumors goes) out of the charade.

*** What can I say? They are of course independent of the righteous GoI with those pious policies. Why else could they indulge in that?

>BH does not count on the issue.

*** Except for his verdicts, which drew you into this analysis, right?




I don't know Rajen. You  must be  under a lot of stress or something, thoroughly left discombobulated by all those confusing impressions that must have bombarded you on your fact finding mission. But there must be ONE good side to it all.

I asked Tilok Daktor about your notes. He says you need a vacation Rajen.



c :-)





At 10:54 AM -0500 10/19/05, Rajen Barua wrote:
Chandan:
As I said I don't have time to explain all these details specially when I see you are far away from reality. Since you are supporting ULFA you should have been ahead of me on the issues. Anyway this is my last explanation on the subject. 
The issue is between GOI and ULFA.
The impression is ULFA does not want to end the charde and that is why they are pushing the PCG in the front as a cushion. (BTW who is paying for PCG's expenses?)
The impression is the whole movie industry in Bangladesh is being run by ULFA. I don't see any incentive for ULFA to end the charade.
GOI is not a one person or one team to have a mind of its own. It has a policy. The impression is that on policy matters it wants to end the charade.
The Assamese people donot matter on this issue as they are not part of the game. They are the victims. If you ask me what they think of it. Hobo Diok to some. Continue the Charade for others as they are enjoying the monetary profit out of the process.
I have heard even the Military personal in Assam donot want to end the issue as many are making huge profits  (as the rumors goes) out of the charade.
BH does not count on the issue.
Now you tell me why do you think the charade will end.?
For last 30 years Assam does not have any new industry. Where do you think all the investment money is coming from for the high rise buildings in Guwahati?
As BH says I think it will continue and many people will get rich.
For rest of the story please visit Assam.
Rajen

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Rajen:

>Bhupen Hazarika seem to be speaking the reality being felt by majority people in Assam today.
>The reason is very simple. (I said it before) Nobody wants a solution. Everybody gains when >there is no solution but the game goes on.



*** Assuming you are correct, that NOBODY wants a solution,and I am not taking you literally here -- I know you mean FEW; does it mean that it is only the Assamese who don't want a solution? Or does Indian Govt. not want a solution either?

A: If the Assamese don't want a solution, what is their motive for continuing with the charade?

B: What is India's motive in your view? I can believe that, and I have my reasons. But  I would be curious about YOUR rationale, should you care to share.

C: What about BH, does he want a solution? If so, as a true Oxomiya leader with a lot of SEEMING influence in Delhi, what is HE contributing?

I would however exclude his wishes for remaining a good Assamese and a good Indian, as any contribution to the process. That is just political double-talk.












At 5:03 PM -0500 10/18/05, Rajen Barua wrote:
>Bhupen Hazarika, who had mediated between the Centre and ULFA during previous NDA regime, today said he did not expect a solution to the problem of >militancy in Assam in near future.

 
Bhupen Hazarika seem to be speaking the reality being felt by majority people in Assam today.
The reason is very simple. (I said it before) Nobody wants a solution. Everybody gains when there is no solution but the game goes on.
As I said, it is the best of times, it is the worst of times!!!
RB


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Subject: [Assam] Doctorate Hazarika may be wishing Assam to give him DuelCitizenship!
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:02:59 +0000
No easy solution to militancy:Hazarika
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1263728.cms
NEW DELHI: Noted Assamese music composer Bhupen Hazarika, who had mediated between the Centre and ULFA during previous NDA regime, today said he did not expect a solution to the problem of militancy in Assam in near future.
"There is no dream about resolution of the problem in near future," the Dadasaheb Phalke award winning artiste told reporters on peace talks between ULFA-appointed citizens' group and the Centre.
The Centre and ULFA must come to the negotiating table if they were serious about bringing peace to Assam, he told a press conference on the eve of a music concert here to raise funds for Assam Association.
"If they are really peace-seekers, they must start talking (directly)," he said when asked about the talks to be held here between the People's Consultative Group and Central leaders on October 25 and 26.
Hazarika, also a winner of the Padma Bhushan and former Chairman of Sangeet Natak Academy, said the Centre should be "more clear" about the proposed talks, but did not elaborate. Hazarika, who had composed a song asking the ULFA militants to shun violence, said his efforts did not yield any result as the outfit did not do so.
Asked about ULFA's demand for sovereignty, he said "I don't believe in violence. I want to be a very good Indian and a very good Assamese as well." He suggested that the Government formulate educational curriculum which would focus on national integration.


 


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