Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mukulda,These are very pertinent quesions. Could you please give direct answers?Dilip
Malabika Brahma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I am still curious about the following 2 question answers1. Prove that people Assam (not just ULFA) want to be represented by PCG.
2. Define who they are representing. Will the political boundary of a sovereign Assam intrude into the political boundary of a sovereign Bodoland, Nagaland? What makes you think that Bodos or other ethnic groups in the region want their fate be determined by PCG ?
mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Most readable/workable plan so far. CRUX duly noted for possible use.
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<<<The stress should on a sovereign economic rather than political region by getting economically integrated to our natural hinderland.>>>
From: Malabika Brahma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Study on Assam -Centre for Policy Alternatives
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:37:31 +0000 (GMT)
The 1st thing PCG should do are the following :
1. Prove that people Assam (not just ULFA) want to be represented by PCG.
2. Define who they are representing. Will the political boundary of a sovereign Assam intrude into the political boundary of a sovereign Bodoland, Nagaland? What makes you think that Bodos or other ethnic groups in the region want their fate be determined by PCG ?
As it stands now, sovereign Assam will be limited to a few pockets in Jorhat, Nagaon and Nalbari. Surely my district (Kokrajhar) will not have anything to do .
I personally feel Kashmir and Assam are entirely different cases. Perhaps majority of the people of Kashmir want indepence and perhaps sovereign Kashmir is good for the Kashmiri people.
But the same does not hold good for the people of Assam for the simple reason that for the same reason North Easterners have lost trust with the republic of India, various ethnic groups in Assam have no greater trust with the Assamese speakers in Assam. It is just a vicious circle.
What will be worth while is
1. PCG take initiative in building up a consensus in the national level (involve reformist from all over India) that the set up of India needs to be changed and a more federal India is the solution. I agree we need to free North East from the diktat of the cow belters but a complete independence is not only an Utopian dream but will lead to more blood shed within ourselves.
2. Remove economic boundary between North East and Bangladesh, Mynmar and China. They are part of our natural hinderland.
The real solution is a world without Nation and Country and worst of all religion focused on the concept of God.
While we are far away from that state, further division in the name of ethnicity and region is a step backwards. A quest for sovereign Assam and the sub-sequent mess that will follow (each group demanding their own land and the resulting conflict) is just that.
One can argue that That exactly what Brits said about India pre 1947. While a post British India did split into 2, the fight over religion still continues. In North East today we will see more blood shed than what we have seen between Hindustan and Pakistan.
But first thing comes first:
Define who you are representing and show us the intended political map of sovereign Assam. The stress should on a sovereign economic rather than political region by getting economically integrated to our natural hinderland.
mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I repeat--come up with YOUR complete PLAN . COME OUT!
Don't miss the boat.
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From: Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Study on Assam -Centre for Policy Alternatives
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:25:06 -0800 (PST)
>Whoa... no private property? I assume that also means
>no private enterprise. Sounds communist to me!
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>Worse - if we are talking demobilization from barracks
>and mobilization into farmlands - sounds somewhat like
>Pol Pot. I mean if you demobilize from barracks, you
>could be demobilizing from a whole lot of other
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>Unfortunately these revolutionary ideas sounded
>revolutionary some decades back. And then unspeakable
>horrors visited people where these supposedly
>revolutionary ideas took root.
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>Question is - who will do the demobilization and
>mobilization, who will own land and other property,
>who will decide what enterprises will come in?
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>In short, who will decide my fate?
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>Mikeda, this sounds downright sinister!!! Or am I
>getting something wrong?
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>The PEOPLE are the people. Like you and me- with
>bits of ideas-some group will Edit /present.
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>The CURE is Governance by the people-at
>home/village/block/district/valley/Assam level-to
>suit their lifestyle-needs-resources-----
>-materials/human/livestock.Land use will be
>regulated-no private property .Each can evolve their
>value system/currency. English
>law/police/lawyer/MyLord Justice are waste. Mandarins
>- ICS/IAS- waste.Best of youth will not be fattening
>idly in army barracks. Demobilize them into the
>farmlands. Religion-Idolatry-Rituals-- " Go ahead-your
>loss". Add up all results of science and PRACTICE now.
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>As I said "Come up with YOUR model". You can. Do not
>hesitate.Think a lot before keying in.
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>Simplistic thinkers or vested interests might say"We
>are already there". We are NOT.
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>From: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Study on Assam -Centre for
>Policy Alternatives
>Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:08:21 +0000 (GMT)
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>mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>If you or any in the Assamnet or beyond have any ideas
>on HOW to rebuild Assam or India -Shoot at me -not
>with a gun-but intelligently.I shall record these and
>present the essence at anappropriate time and venue.
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>If you have any objection about ULFA- ask yourself why
>India continues with a million strong armed
>forces--and spends literally evey Dollar"Earned" from
>the effort of millions sent out to slave in the 1st
>world-- in keeping this 'Armed Forces, supplied and
>equipped-- knowing fully well that these will not be
>defending anybody,anywhere,anytime.And ask yourself if
>GeorgeWBush is a leader or a pusher or what?And ask
>why there is any unrest anywhere at all--come with an
>unified theory--you might even rank with Amartya Sen
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>From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mc mahant
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>Subject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Study on Assam -Centre for
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>At 5:38 PM +0000 10/30/05, umesh sharma wrote:
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>Mukul-da,
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>Who are these people and what is their cure -- I hope
>you are not thinking of ULFA's gunmen as the
>cure-makers.
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>Umesh
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>mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Some people know much more than what is listed in this
>report-since 1960's.
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>This report does not venture into the realms of CURE.
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>Some other people know the' modus operandi' for cure.
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>Back them if you love Assam and want to save India
>from disintegratingto a bombed out heap.
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