Dear Mahanta da I appreciate your right to reply to the mails as per your wish. But that can't prevent people from concluding that you are being evasive at times whenever people raise extremely pertinent points on the issue of Assam's secession from India. I have already given examples in my last mail. You tried to counter that by claiming your inalienable right to be seletive in reply to the mails. I dont think we will achieve anything by this way
I am never selective or choosy in condemning and denouncing any type of violence. I find any kind of violence absolutely reprehensible. It is an anathema for the humanity, to say the least. I would be very happy if you can prove that someone is running a personal agenda in assamnet. Being new to assamnet, I can't rule out that possibility. But I will be eager to know. As regards the 'applicable analogy', I am sure Rajib will address the points you have raised in response to his post. Bye for now Mayur Chandigarh --- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >But is it important or not to find out what could > be their wish or > >it simply >does not matter. > > **** I don't know that ANYBODY in this forum either > asserted, or > suggested or even implied that it does not matter. > But the tone of > the question belies an unsaid assumption that it > has not been or > will not be addressed by the PCG, when the question > arises in the > course of the pre-negotiation talks or in the actual > ULFA/Center > negotiations. > > My guess is that the question has arisen on the > assumption that ULFA will seek > a sovereign Assam in which the Bodos, the Karbis, > the Tewas and all > the other indigenous people will be second class > citizens. > > I don't know what ULFA might be thinking on the > matter, but from what > is public knowledge, ULFA is not struggling alone > but with complete > co-operation from the other indigenous people of > Assam, including > Bengalis. I realize that NOT ALL in these groups > support them. But > that is true for all. > > > >Just wanted to point out some challanges they > need to address. > > *** Yes, I too agree. I believe that one of the > weakest links of the > ULFA and the associated freedom movements have been > an absence of a > well organized over-ground front to deal with the > political > questions. But I also understand the enormous > obstacle of the Indian > army, its clandestine operations > and its stooges the Assam and Indian media poses. > > >I do wish PCG a success. > > *** I commend you on that. And I EXPECTED you to do > that :-). > > > > > > >> *** I don't have any quarrel with that. By all > means they > >should. But WHY should I or > > >> anyone else accept the fact that just because > Utpal Brahma > >asserts he represents the > > >> wishes of the Bodo people, it is indeed the > unimpeachable truth? > > > >You don't have to accept just because I said so and > neither do I > >represent the Bodo people. But is it important or > not to find out > >what could be their wish or it simply does not > matter. > > > >I do wish PCG a success. Just wanted to point out > some challanges > >they need to address. > > > > > > > >Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> >And tell me why shouldn't they ? > >> > > > > > >*** I don't have any quarrel with that. By all > means they should. > >But WHY should I or anyone else accept the fact > that just because > >Utpal Brahma asserts he represents the wishes of > the Bodo people, it > >is indeed the unimpeachable truth? > > > > >Tell me how many members of other ethnic groups > in Assam (apart > >from Assamese >speakers) have you taken into > confidence before you > >can say that they want >their fate be determined by > PCG ? > > > >*** First off, the PCG neither has the authority, > nor the ability to > >DECIDE the fate of the people of Assam. It is a > profoundly and > >obviously faulty assumption and thus the > questions/comments framed > >on that assumption have little merit. > > > >From what I read and understand is that the PCG is > merely an > >instrument to set the stage for a negotiated > settlement between the > >Center and ULFA. In that, they don't need to PROVE > anything to > >anybody at all. > > > >But at the same time, considering the reaction of > the people across > >the state and as could be gauged by newspaper > reports, a tremendous > >amount of HOPE is placed on the PCG to be able to > pave the way for a > >successful end to the ULFA > >movement. It is to the PCG's credit that they are > inviting comments, > >ideas, participation from the people. One would > hope therefore that > >those who have Assam's welfare in mind, would > participate, > >CONSTRUCTIVELY, instead of attempting to demonize > them personally or > >assign ulterior motives to their efforts. > > > >Anyone wishing to understand what is going on would > want to know > >why such a hope on the what the PCG might > accomplish. One could > >infer from that, by and large, the people do indeed > identify with > >the PCG's mission. We also know that a faction, > including certain > >Assam Netters, DO NOT identify or have any > goodwill towards the > >PCG's mission. That is their choice. Under these > circumstances, it > >is them who are opponents of Assam's interests. > They are the ones DO > >NOT represent Assam. > > > >IF the PCG and subsequently the ULFA were to > succeed in the > >negotiations with the Center, it would mean certain > GAINs for Assam. > >Gains, which would otherwise not be there. That is > exactly why, like > >Santanu Roy explained so eloquently sometime back, > the bigger the > >support of the people for the PCG and subsequently > for the ULFA's > >positions, the higher and better would the GAINS be > for Assam. > > > >However I realize that the option for pursuing the > 'apwnar naak kati > >xotinir jatra bhongo kora' ( to cut off one's nose > to spite one's > >face) remains open for the willing. And it has been > hard not to > >notice the consternation among the self-righteous > of Assam Net > >trashing around not knowing how to deal with being > >inconsequential to the developments. > > > >To assert that the PCG does not represent Assam or > to assert that > >Utpal Brahma represents the Bodo people's wishes > are equally > >presumptuous and highly unpersuasive propositions. > Similarly the > >assertions of some of Assam Netters , Indian > newspapers and the like > >that the ULFA do not represent Assam's interests > are also baseless, > >or at best highly questionable. > > > >The ONLY way to be certain about these issues will > be to have a free > >an unfettered debate and a subsequent free and fair > referendum. > > > >But I won't hold my breath on that happening > anytime soon. > > > > > > > > > >At 9:08 PM +0000 11/2/05, Malabika Brahma wrote: > > > >> >> Utpal and others challenges PCG to prove that > they represent Assam. > >>>> Why? Obviously because he/they believe it does > not. How do they know > >>>> that? Are they more informed than the people? > You === message truncated ===> _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > [email protected] > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
