Dear Mahanta da

Your superb command over the language, felicity with
the words and excessively analytical bent of mind have
tempted me to take a leaf from your post to Rajib and
pose a question to you. I hope you would not desist
from caring to reply to my query.
>>Assam is Assam and it's
>> wishes are not subject to
>> somebody else's choices, wishes or demands)

What will happen if we replace the word Assam with
India ? 

You are extremely ingenious in drawing analogies to
support your viewpoint. But some netters will
definitely find it disingenuous ( which you find
repulsive and abominable in other people's writing).

Mayur
Chandigarh



--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  >The basis of modern Indian nationhood from most
> claims
> >is the common cultural links across all the regions
> of
> >the country.
> 
> 
> *** But that ought to be VOLUNTARY, not out of a 
> lust for land, held together with brute military 
> force.
> 
> 
> >  >Going by this logic of who ruled whom, the Nagas
> >should not have a country
> 
> *** That is no argument. Assam is Assam and it's
> wishes are not subject to
> somebody else's choices, wishes or demands.
> 
> 
> But let me ask you, one of the most avid 
> advocates of India, WHY it is good for India to 
> hold onto Assam, or how it is good for Assam to 
> continue to submit to Indian rule?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 8:01 AM -0800 11/3/05, Rajib Das wrote:
> >There was never one India ruler that had ALL of
> India
> >under his belt. The Cholas were never ruled from
> >Pataliputra as well. And Assam as it is known today
> >was not ruled for ever from Pragjyotishpur.
> >
> >The basis of modern Indian nationhood from most
> claims
> >is the common cultural links across all the regions
> of
> >the country. Actually that is how most modern
> nations
> >(including those of Europe) came about.
> >
> >Going by this logic of who ruled whom, the Nagas
> >should not have a country (or for that matter a
> state
> >even) - their territories were, for the most part,
> >variously ruled by the Meitis and the Burmese. And
> I
> >am sure more than half the tribes of the north east
> >did not have a king in their name.
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>  >In an antithesis to the rebels’ claim that
> Assam
> >>  >had never shared a common culture and history
> >>  >with India before the Yandaboo >Treaty, Mamoni
> >>  >pointed out that the Ramayana had always
> >>  >influenced Assamese culture and society. An
> >>  >acclaimed authority on the >epic, she said
> >>  >Madhav Kandali, a 14th century Assamese poet,
> >>  >was the first to re-tell the Ramayana in a
> >>  >modern Indo-Aryan >language.
> >>
> >>  >Yet, though she underscored Assam’s inseparable
> >>  >cultural link with mainland India, she skirted
> a
> >>  >question on Ulfa’s demand for a >sovereign
> Assam
> >>  >for obvious reasons. "Please don’t mix the
> two,"
> >>  >she said.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  *** There is a very simple explanation here that
> >>  many people tend to miss:
> >>
> >>  In spite of all the cultural and religious links
> >>  with India, Assam never was a
> >>  subject of Indian rulers.
> >>
> >>  That is how it ought to be. Keep the cultural
> >>  links, the religious links and the trade links.
> >>  They cannot be wiped out by an artificial line
> on
> >>  the ground. It is not like all of a sudden Assam
> >>  will become a vassal state of China, or Myanmar,
> >>  or B-Desh. But why force Indian rule on Assam?
> >>  Let both flourish, side by side, in friendship
> >>  and mutual co-operation, like the two did over
> >>  millenia, for the greater good of all.
> >>
> >>  cm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  At 7:42 AM +0000 11/3/05, Bartta Bistar wrote:
> >>  >Guwahati, Thursday, November 3, 2005
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >Epics linked Assam with India culturally
> >>  >
> >>  >http://www.assamtribune.com/ 3 November 2005
> >>  >By A Staff Reporter
> >>  >  GUWAHATI, Nov 2 – The Ramayana and the
> >>  >Mahabharata – the two Indian epics – have
> linked
> >>  >Assam with the rest of India culturally in an
> >>  >inseparable manner. Assam has a vibrant
> cultural
> >>  >tradition that speaks of its cultural link with
> >>  >the mainland. Its cultural relation with the
> >>  >mainland is very strong and old. There were
> some
> >>  >smaller paths across the Himalayas, which
> served
> >>  >as the channels for surface communication among
> >>  >the scholars of the State and from other parts
> >>  >of India so far as maintaining mutual relations
> >>  >was concerned.
> >>  >
> >>  >These were the observations made by noted
> >>  >litterateur Dr Mamoni Raisom (Indira) Goswami,
> >>  >who has now been acting as a mediator between
> >>  >the Union Government the militant outfit United
> >>  >Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA). She was
> >>  >replying to a question whether to her the
> >>  >Ramayana tradition of the State was an
> >>  >anti-thesis to the present clamour of some
> >  > >circles that Assam was not linked with the
> rest
> >>  >of India culturally in the past. Dr Goswami was
> >  > >addressing a press conference at the Circuit
> >>  >House here this afternoon in connection with
> the
> >>  >four-day Second International Ramayana
> >>  >Conference organised by the Asom Kalatirtha in
> >>  >collaboration with the Srimanta Sankaradeva
> >>  >Kalakshetra being held in the city from
> tomorrow.
> >>  >
> >>  >Dr Goswami also maintained that the ULFA
> >>  >Commander-in-Chief (C-in-C) Paresh Barua, whom
> >>  >she described as very well-read person, had
> been
> >>  >making contacts with her every now and then and
> >>  >on one occasion she had raised the issue of the
> >>  >August 15, 2004 Blast at Dhemaji, in which 13
> >>  >persons, including ten children and three women
> >>  >were killed. When this issue was raised, Barua
> >>  >was silent for some time and then he denied
> >>  >involvement of the ULFA in the incident and
> >>  >named some people responsible for the incident.
> >>  >But, Dr Goswami refrained from disclosing the
> >>  >names of the people named by Barua in
> conncetion
> >>  >with the Dhemaji tragedy.
> >>  >
> >>  >The newspersons told Dr Goswami that the
> >>  >militant outfit had been denying its
> involvement
> >>  >and blaming the police for all such misdeeds,
> >>  >which affect the common people instead of the
> >>  >security forces. They cited the example of
> >>  >Russian mine expert Sergei Gretchenko, Sanjoy
> >>  >Ghosh, the Sivasagar and the Boko blasts, in
> >>  >which the ULFA had been denying its involvement
> >>  >even as its involvement in all those cases was
> >>  >established later on.
> >>  >
> >>  >It is also pertinent to mention here that even
> >>  >ULFA chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa had admitted in
> >>  >a covert manner the involvement of his outfit
> in
> 
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