At 9:34 PM +0000 11/14/05, umesh sharma wrote:
I have never met any other member of Assamnet to this date - I could be a pseudonym too - but this evening I am meeting Satyen-da Das and Namita-ji at their residence in DC area where they have shifted from Michigan Ann Arbor. They invited me over phone in the morning!
*** Uh-oh! Umesh, you better get ready for trouble :-)!
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 8:25 PM +0000 11/14/05, Malabika Brahma wrote:
>> unflattering physical attributes--you name it.
That's a news ! I always thought the general consensus was qu! ite the opposite :)
**** OUCH! Do you have to kick me while I am down :-)?
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Mayur:
>>Secondly, I did not say anything about leaving assamnet.
I am glad to hear that :-).
> >At a personal level, I have high regard for Mahanta-da
>which is clearly exemplified in some of my earlier
>mails on assamnet. I appreciate his formidable
>analytical skills to make many people believe that the colour of the
>blackboard >is white.
*** Thanks much for the kind words. But obviously you have gone way
over with my abilities like making black appear white. In the past
people have called me assorte! d names, assigned ulterior motives,
tried to hurt me by citing my advancing age and unflattering physical
attributes--you name it. But attributing supernatural abilities is a
first. There has to be a far more credible and rational explanation
for it, don't you think? Allo! w me to give you a hint : How about
making just plain old common sense ? Is it possible :-)?
cm
At 9:53 AM -0800 11/14/05, mayur bora wrote:
>Dear Santanu-da
>
>Thank you for your kind words about my introduction. I
>was not exactly offended by that comparison by
>Dilip-da. I was no doubt amused and found the whole
>thing totally uncalled for. But as indicated now by
>Mahanta-da about some past episodes of impersonation
>on assamnet, I feel it might have been an outcome of
>that.
>
>Secondly, I did not say anything about leaving
>assamnet. I want to leave the debate on sovereignty
>purely ! on a temporary basis till the blueprint is
>offered by someone for a threadbare discussion. With
>all the humility at my command, I wish to state that I
>write only when some issue touches my heart and
>inspires me to pour out my feelings. I will keep on
&g! t;doing that.
>
>At a personal level, I have high regard for Mahanta-da
>which is clearly exemplified in some of my earlier
>mails on assamnet. I appreciate his formidable
>analytical skills to make many people believe that the
>colour of the blackboard is white. It is always a
>pleasure to have a debate in general on assamnet and
>with Mahanta-da in particular. I don't intend to
>deprive me of that pleasure so easily.
>
>Take care.
>
>Mayur
>
>--- "Roy, Santanu" wrote:
>
>> Dear Mayur:
>>
>> Please don't be offended by Dilip-da comparing you
>> to a comet or a sha! dow. He means well.
>>
>> Fact is that you write very well and many on this
>> net, who are not active right now, find your
>> arguments extremely relevant and laud your ability
>> to articulate them with intellectual honesty.
>> Perhaps, they want to see you write more often
>> (which is understandably time consuming). In any
>> case, please keep writing - as often as you can -
>> and not necessarily about sovereignty.
>>
>> Take care -
>>
>> Santanu-da.
>>
>> To other netters: Mayur is very real, a former
>> student of economics from my own college in Delhi
>> (much younger than me, of course) & now managing a
>> major public sector bank in Chandigarh. Its a
>> pleasure to have him on the net.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mayur bora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>! > Sent: Mon 11/14/2005 10:28 PM
>> To: Dilip/Dil Deka; Roy, Santanu; Chan Mahanta;
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Assam] Assam's Ancient Links with
>> Mainland India
>>
>>
>> My knowledge about science in general and astronomy
>> in
>> particular is extremely poor. Even then I could not
>> resist the temptation of asking the gentleman about
>> the logic of comparing me to a comet as I joined
>> assamnet only during August 2005. Does any comet
>> keep
>> on coming and vanishing so frequently ? Secondly I
>> don't have a misplaced sense of importance about
>> myself to think that I am trying to light the
>> bright
>> sky of assamnet. What I have been trying for the
>> last
>> few months is to share my concern on many issues
&! gt;> pertaining to Assam and to look for at least a
>> couple
>> of solutions in a collective and consensual way. Mr
> > Deka might have missed many of our (Mahanta -da's
>> and
>> mine) earlier mails on similar kind of issues. But
&g! t;> what have we achieved so far ? Now I have decided
>> not
>> to give counter arguments due to the following
>> reasons.
>>
>> 1) We are becoming more and more theoretical
>> 2) Paucity of time at my side to indulge in
>> something
>> with no workable solution at sight
>> 3) Gradual turning of the whole issue into some
>> kind
>> of one-upmanship
> > 4) Last but not the least, Mahanta-da's increasing
>> inclination to answer any question with a question
>>
>> I am very happy if he or for that matter any one in
>> the assamnet has a realistic blueprin! t for sovereign
>> Assam. I have all the best wishes for them to
>> translate their dreams into reality in future.
>> However
>> till the time that blueprint is not shared on a
>> common
>> platform for any meaningful debate, no one can
>> prevent
>> me from taking any such claim from any one including
>> Mahanta - da with a handful (not with a pinch) of
>> salt.
>>
>>
>> Mayur
>>
>> --- Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
>>
>> > Santanu,
>> > First of all I apologize to everyone for copying a
>> > personal mail to Assamnet. It was meant to be only
>> > for Chandan Mahanta since he was trying so hard to
>> > get a response from Mayur Bora and it looked to me
>> > Mayur Bora was like a comet. He lit up the skies
>> of
>> > Assamnet for a short while and vanishe! d. We have
>> had
>> > so many shadows come and go in Assamnet, I felt
>> here
>> > is another. I of course hope that Mayur Bora is a
>> > real person and he will continue to participate in
>> > Assamnet. We know for sure that Bidyut Kakati is
>> an
>> > assumed name just like Dr. Tilok Hatimuriya and
>> > Dipankar Pungta were (R.I.P).
>> >
>> > Prasenjit,
>> > This has nothing to do with unity or disunity.
>> Mine
>> > was a simple observation and a simple query to my
>> > friend Chandan Mahanta. It is unfortunate that
>> > Assamnet's name remained when I deleted the other
>> > names from the original mail.
>> > Despite occasional flare up that you see in this
>> > net, in general the discussions are civil compared
>> > to many other nets I have seen.
! >> >
>> > So stay calm and participate in the discussions as
>> > your time allows. Pseudonames though distracting
>> > will not alter the course.
>> >
>> > Dilip Deka
>> >
>>
>=======================================================================================
>> > "Roy, Santanu" wrote:
>> > Dilip-da:
>> > Why do you think Mayur Bora is a shadow?
>> > Santanu.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
>> > Dilip/Dil Deka
>> > Sent: Mon 11/14/2005 4:05 AM
>> > To: Chan Mahanta
>> > Cc: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Assam's Ancient Links with
>> > Mainland India
>> >
>> > Nulu,
>> > Mayur Bora, I think, is a ! shadow just like Bidyut
>> > Kakati. Another impersonation. Do you have any
>> > inkling who it could be?
>> > Dilip
>> >
>> > Chan Mahanta wrote:
>> > Hi Mayur:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I was looking forward to getting some specific
>> > answers to all the questions I asked you about
>> your
>> > charges of my various 'specious' arguments, about
>> > the excessive nature of my analyses, about how
>> > Indian governance is helping reduce the rifts>> > between the many indigenous people-your primary
>> > concern about Assam, how you justify that as a
>> > reason AGAINST Assam's sovereignty aspirations, so
>> > on and so forth.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Since you failed to answer any of them! other than
>> > repeat your opinions, will it be fair for us to
>> > conclude that those were merely your fancy words
>> and
>> > that there was no substance to them, that you
>> don't
>> > know why you make those charges and comments and
>> > deliver those opinions ? And if you do not agree,
>> > will you explain why?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, I will be pleased to explain the disarray in
>> > Assam's management and how they are rooted in the
>> > dysfunctional Indian governance. However, that is
>> > not to be construed as the people in charge of
>> Assam
>> > governance have no responsibility at all, like
> > some
>> > of our friends here assume, as soon as we discuss
>> > the Indian governmental roots of the proble! ms, and
>> > get all very excited. They too are accountable.
>> >
>> >
>> > The question however is HOW do you hold them
>> > accountable? How do you change things? I presume
>> you
>> > too do not like what you see. But what is YOUR
>> plan,
>> > and how do you see MORE of the same being better
>> > than changes and reforms under a sovereign Assam
> > > govt.?
>> >
>> >
>> > Many of our Markhowa ( Markin Kharkhowa) peers,
>> with
>>
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>
>
>
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