C'da,

>systemically wrong with Indian governance

While I do agree that a lot needs to be done in this area, the idea of
making a complete turn-around of areas plagued by systemic problems
will take a long time.
The Indian Governmental system does have checks and balances, so the
problem really lies with many of those who are in charge
(ministers/bureaucrats). Any system will have loopholes, but it has
become a past time in India for people to take advantage of these
loopholes.

In the end, systemic problems are caused by a few functions,
(a) bureaucrats and ministers who are corrupt and inept
(b) a populace that is willing to take whatever is dished out and
reelecting the same scoundrels every election cycle
and
(c) a business climate where a lot of attention seems to be diverted
to duping/taking advantage of the government (country) , people and
the exchequer.

Yes, I agree with what Murthy says inspite of the fact that there may
be that polititcian that is willing to put the country's need before
himself.

>  Suresh Prabhu of Shiv Sena accepted the criticism but said the need of the
> hour was to focus on reforming the politics, its institutions and its
> functionaries rather than indulge in mud-slinging

Prabhu's statement seems to be more for the press and it is a good
suggestion. The Shiv Sena have not been stalwarts either. There have
been many accusations of corruption and extortion on businesses and
Bollywood leveled against the.

I would rather tend to side with Murthy on this.

BTW- all this begs the question: If this is systemic and the problems
are pervasive, how is it that some states are registering higher
growth rates (than national average), while others are far below - 3rd
world standards. Many of the ones that have NOT done well are in the
northern/Central states - from where the GOI is supposedly controlled.
The article I sent on 'Regional Imbalance'  is a case in point.
Lack of growth and development cannot be ALL because of poor
governance. To poor governance, if one were to add a good measure of a
few other unfavorable ingredients, we could see a Bihar in the making
all over India and in every state.

-- Ram






On 12/30/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following after yesterday's criticism from Narayana Murthy.
>
> Ram, you might look at Suresh Prabhu's comment below. I point that out for
> those of you who claim that there is nothing systemically wrong with Indian
> governance -- and thus it is a problem with people-BAD people that is!
>
> (The empheses mine).
>
> cm
>
>
>
>
>
> Narayana Murthy at the receiving end
> [ Friday, December 30, 2005 10:11:10 pmTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
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>  NEW DELHI: Leaders across the political spectrum have come out strongly
> against Infosys chief N R Narayana Murthy's criticism of the political
> class, which he said, was "inept" and "corrupt" and did not own up to
> responsibility for its failures. Many felt that Murthy's criticism, made on
> Wednesday at a function in Bangalore, was "abusive" in nature.
>
>  An agitated Sharad Yadav, head of Janata Dal (United), asked Murthy to stay
> "within limits". He said politicians faced a difficult job in marrying
> aspirations of a heterogeneous mass of people. "I challenge him to contest
> one election and see it for himself. On the other hand, I can run a company
> easily because there you don't have to face people and are free to do what
> you want to," he fumed.
>
>  The general feeling was that complexities of politics were being ignored,
> as sweeping generalisations were being made against the political class. Ram
> Kripal Yadav, Lok Sabha MP of Rashtriya Janata Dal, pounced on the statement
> as a "conspiracy to subvert democracy"of which corporate houses were also a
> part. "It is to malign us," he said. Yadav said there were enough honest
> people to be found among politicians. "He is elitist," he said.
>
>  Samajwadi Party leader Ajar Singh felt it was sad and "unfortunate" that
> such a sweeping statement had come from a "respected corporate giant".
> Countering the charge, he said there were corrupt politicians just like
> businessmen had black sheep among them.
>
>  Dismissing charges of lack of accountability, Singh said politicians had to
> face people and even Indira Gandhi faced an electoral defeat. "But a
> businessman can simply declare himself bankrupt and does not even have to
> face the shareholders," he argued. RJD's Yadav said businessmen fleece the
> country by evading sales tax and other taxes but still manage to get away
> without being called corrupt.
>  Nilotpal Basu of the CPM said, "The statement is not worthy of a
> reaction."D Raja, national secretary of the CPI, said it was the philosophy
> of neo-liberals who don't recognise democracy and its institutions. "Murthy
> has always reflected this philosophy very well," he said.
>  Suresh Prabhu of Shiv Sena accepted the criticism but said the need of the
> hour was to focus on reforming the politics, its institutions and its
> functionaries rather than indulge in mud-slinging.

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