Title: Re: [Assam] Himendra's reply to Saurav
Your are correct in the sense that the case of Religion is a bit tricky.
But Religion also evolves over time although with much resistance.
The thing is that Culture and Language have, we may say, only the front ends, which people see or care about more or less.
At least that is what they practice, the front.
But religions have the front and the back with which people are concerned.
So how religions evolve into something else from the original keeping the back end fixed?.
The front of the religion evolves to the need of the day and people do that by reinterpreting the back to suit. 
And when they cannot reinterpret any more, a new religion evolve
Take the case of Hindusim:
Originally it had no name and it was pure poetry and questioning regarding the essence of creation and gods.
That evolve to what may be termed Vedic religion of sacrifice or Brahmanism as it is called..
Now that went too far to one extreme of sacrifice that people started questioning.
And we got Buddhism and Jainism which rejected the Vedic religion of sacrifice and branched off to two new religions.
The Vedic religion that remained also were reformed and new elements added, tribal religions were absorbed.
And we got common Hindusim of the people.
So as a result, in Hindusim today, we got worships of all non Aryan deities like Durga, Kali, Siva, Krishna, Ganesha etc which were not there at all in original Vedic religion.
What a fundamentalist actually do is to cling to his Durga/Kali/Krishna/Siva/Hanuman/Ganesh worship and reinterpret the religion such that you satisfy both.
Thus all these gods became over time reincarnation of one Hindu God. 
The Hindu Geeta is actually a reinterpretation of Hindusim through the mouth of Krishna.
Now what all Hindu reformers (except our Xong.kordeva) did before proceeding with their reform movement during the middle ages is to reinterpret the Geeta in their own way. In fact without writing such a 'doctoral thesis' on interpretation of the Geeta, one is not qualified to start a new tradition.
Shankara, Ramanusm, Madhava, Saitanyadeva and everybody did that.
Two of the reformers did not do that.
One is Guru Nanak, and we got a new religion -Sikhism.
The other is Xong.kordev.
They did not write a reinterpretaion (or vasya as it is called) of the Geeta.
According to me, Xong.kordev started a new religion.
However, the Assamese are smart. They are today trying to reinterpret Xong.kordev so that he conforms to Pan Indian Hindusim.
 
Yes, I agree, religion is tricky, but it evolves to something new over time.
 
Same is the case with Islam and Christianity to different extents.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Himendra's reply to Saurav

At 2:17 PM -0600 1/25/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
Bravo!!!
Culture, Religion, Language all are like rivers.
They flow and take the paths of least resistence.



*** Cultures evolve. Languages do too, although far less easily, unless enforced
with overwhelming political power and/or military might.

But do religions evolve in the same manner? If so, where does fundamentalism come from? Why are certain religions ready to kill, before letting one change to another or attack reformers as heretics and converts as apostates? And why is it that all religious wisdoms were found millenia ago, with no farther developments in religion, no new wisdoms found? Or could it be that newly derived wisdoms in the field are not accepted as legitimate, asserting that religions are not meant to be changed - like certain governments?







RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Malabika Brahma
To: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Himendra's reply to Saurav

I would disgree with both Jugal da and Himenda.
 
Religion, Language, Culture, Nation all are constantly evolving over time  and will always undergo change. Any resistance is not only futile but also against the normal and natural course of history.
 
For example, most of the Assamese (Koches) speakers or for that matter the Bengali speakers in North Bengal were Bodo speakers at one point of time. Does it mean that the Koches should abandon their Assamese or Bengali speech and return to Bodo fold ?
 
Or for that matter, Mithraism was the dominating religion all over Middle East and Europe before Islam or Christianity. Should all of them (those Christians or Muslims) abandon their faith and return to their ancient religion ?
 
We should learn to realise that NONE is ever eternal - be in Religion, Language, Race or Nationality.  The ONLY ETERNAL FACT is the Change itself.
 
Utpal
Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> people of Assam to remain Hindu, but become
> Hindi-speaking!! I am not sure what history has in
> store for Assam, but I would like the language
> preserved for eternity!!

Jugalda,

Conversely, would you be happier if the people of
Assam keep Assamese as a language but become all
Muslims? Let go of all the "secular" customs and
traditions that are associated with Assamese being
Hindus?

And in alternative situations, would you rather the
language be Hindi-ized (meaning significant Hindi
influence) or Arabicized (significant Muslim
influence) if these are the only two options
available? Bengali in Bangladesh is undergoing rapid
transformation as the country itself transforms into a
fundamentalist state.

Just interested in understanding your point of view?

Rajib

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