Title: Re: [Assam] Himendra's reply to Saurav
>Why are certain religions ready to kill, before letting one change to another or attack reformers as heretics and converts as apostates?
 
I did not answer this part.
This actually has nothing to with the religion itself and everything to about religion.
The basic thing (or problem) is that an individual needs a collective identity to feel good or feel strong. That is basic human nature. They do that by identifying themselves with their language, culture and religion. Out of these, religion is more volatile, more emotional.
People are actually ready to kill not for their religion but for their identity or when they find their identity is threatened or believed to be threatened.
It can be any of the three or any other cult relating to identity.
 
RB 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Himendra's reply to Saurav

At 2:17 PM -0600 1/25/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
Bravo!!!
Culture, Religion, Language all are like rivers.
They flow and take the paths of least resistence.



*** Cultures evolve. Languages do too, although far less easily, unless enforced
with overwhelming political power and/or military might.

But do religions evolve in the same manner? If so, where does fundamentalism come from? Why are certain religions ready to kill, before letting one change to another or attack reformers as heretics and converts as apostates? And why is it that all religious wisdoms were found millenia ago, with no farther developments in religion, no new wisdoms found? Or could it be that newly derived wisdoms in the field are not accepted as legitimate, asserting that religions are not meant to be changed - like certain governments?







RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Malabika Brahma
To: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Himendra's reply to Saurav

I would disgree with both Jugal da and Himenda.
 
Religion, Language, Culture, Nation all are constantly evolving over time  and will always undergo change. Any resistance is not only futile but also against the normal and natural course of history.
 
For example, most of the Assamese (Koches) speakers or for that matter the Bengali speakers in North Bengal were Bodo speakers at one point of time. Does it mean that the Koches should abandon their Assamese or Bengali speech and return to Bodo fold ?
 
Or for that matter, Mithraism was the dominating religion all over Middle East and Europe before Islam or Christianity. Should all of them (those Christians or Muslims) abandon their faith and return to their ancient religion ?
 
We should learn to realise that NONE is ever eternal - be in Religion, Language, Race or Nationality.  The ONLY ETERNAL FACT is the Change itself.
 
Utpal
Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> people of Assam to remain Hindu, but become
> Hindi-speaking!! I am not sure what history has in
> store for Assam, but I would like the language
> preserved for eternity!!

Jugalda,

Conversely, would you be happier if the people of
Assam keep Assamese as a language but become all
Muslims? Let go of all the "secular" customs and
traditions that are associated with Assamese being
Hindus?

And in alternative situations, would you rather the
language be Hindi-ized (meaning significant Hindi
influence) or Arabicized (significant Muslim
influence) if these are the only two options
available? Bengali in Bangladesh is undergoing rapid
transformation as the country itself transforms into a
fundamentalist state.

Just interested in understanding your point of view?

Rajib

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