Title: Re: [Assam] Hamas sweeps to election victory
>Is it not patently ridiculous and ludicrous to charge ULFA with FAILING to CHANGE Assam.
 
Who is charging ULFA for failing to change Assam?.
I think ULFA has already very successfully changed Assam.
 
It has brought in the Gun culture.
It has brought in the Bundh Culture.
It has damaged the work ethics from the youth.
It has transformed the Democracy to Desi Hobo Diok Demokresi.
It has increased and legitimized corruption.
It has legitimized lack of accountability.
It has demoralized the people of Assam.
It has rtuined the atmosphere for any discussion for Autonomy.
What more change ULFA wants in Assam?
ULFA should be happy and rejoice at its success.
RB 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Hamas sweeps to election victory

O' Deka:


But once again:

>So it appears that insurgent leaders run their agenda just for personal gains.


*** Where did this come from? What were the information that you saw either in BB's or Rajen's or my posts  that you culled to infer " So---it appears---"


>>Let me say one more time -  the insurgencies we have in NE India are nothing >but self-aggrandizement -----

*** I heard that loud and clear. Saw that finger wagging, and shock-waves of the
august verdict shook the earth.

The question is WHO asked for the verdict?

Did we feel left out ?



Now for the next round:




At 6:39 PM -0800 1/29/06, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
*** Why speak when there is so little to say? ---
 
The history of ULFA has nothing on the front cover, none on the back. The inside of the front cover says, " We want to change Assam" and the inside of the back cover says, "We failed to change Assam but thank God we leaders made good money while trying. Thank you all."


*** But WHAT is here other than asserting your own your own righteousness? I don't know that anyone was questioning that.

Is it not patently ridiculous and ludicrous to charge ULFA with FAILING to CHANGE Assam, while fighting it tooth and nail, never yielding an inch, even going to such lengths as attempting to portray Assam's discontent as its OWN DAMN FAULT, attempting to attribute it to such mindless alibis as LACKING a WORK ETHIC, or not learning enough CUNNING to deal with Delhi and other such rubbish?


Come on! Who are you kidding?



 *** That must be the words of the wise! ----
Do you want more words of the wise?  The PCG will coduct about four meetings with GOI with no breakthrough. ULFA will start more bombing and mortar attacks. PCG will fall apart because the citizens in Jorhat, Dibrugarh, Nagaon and Guwahati do not care what PCG says. GOI and ULFA will go their own ways. Assam will again continue its journey without a travel plan.


*** That is impressive prognostication. No doubt a lot of  it is self-fulfilling
prophecy. But still it is prescience born out of rare intellect, a gift few others  are endowed with.


>Assam will again continue its journey without a travel plan.

*** What happened to GOI's plan that you recommend Assam go to Cunning School to try and get a few crumbs from ? And what is YOUR contribution towards helping it with that travel plan? Or Cunning School is it?

>And do you want to guess what happens when there is no plan?

*** I don't want to hazard a guess. Why don't you help the clueless with all the
wisdom set aside for the privileged?

O'm :-)




 
Dilip Deka


Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So it appears that insurgent leaders run their agenda just for personal gains.


*** Ahhh! What inferential skills!





>Let me say one more time - the insurgencies we have in NE India are nothing but >self-aggrandizement of a few self-appointed leaders  who are making lots of >money through extortion and enjoying a good life at the expense of the poor >foot soldiers who get killed in encounters in Narengi and sapekhati?



*** That must be the words of the wise!




*** Why speak when there is so little to say?


:-)







At 5:32 PM -0800 1/29/06, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
Otherwise why would you put them in the same category as dictators who have been disgraced. Is Arabinda Rajkhowa in the same category with his millions of Taka in Bangladesh banks and beyond?
Sensitivity works both ways.

 
Let me say one more time - the insurgencies we have in NE India are nothing but self-aggrandizement of a few self-appointed leaders  who are making lots of money through extortion and enjoying a good life at the expense of the poo! r foot soldiers who get killed in encounters in Narengi and sapekhati?
Dilip Deka
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>Former President Yasser Arafat died a rich man. I often wondered how an insurgency leader could amass a fortune? >Now I know.


*** I know how hurtful that must be BK. Can you imagine that? Arafat must have shamed the likes of other darlings of ours from a not too distant past, like Pinochet, Suharto, Marcoses -- Nando and Immy both, and many more.  But I shall spare your sensitivities today.

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear BK,

Sorry I hurt your feelings again.

But when we forward something with our own commentary praising or dissing it, we run the risk of being challenged, or proven wrong or merely ignored, don't we?

I am sure you recognize that. And on that basis, I am surprised that you took my criticism of the piece personally.

But you could have had the last word, if you only showed how and where my criticisms of the piece were wrong, uncalled for, improperly understood or misplaced however else.

Many of our fellow netters charge me with all kinds of things when they are displeased with my analyses or commentary, but never bother to take the simple route of pointing out how or where I am wron! g. It baffles me. May be you can explain why that is so, since you too are doing the same thing. Shall we ?


>Chandan did not find so and while elaborating on his observations he attacked me personally and gratuitously too >saying that my assessment was no more than a naïve acceptance of things in general like many others.


*** I did? I don't know ! BK, I must be losing my mind. I re-read what I wrote, but could not find anything akin to what you attribute to me that would qualify
as :--attacked me personally and gratuitously too", assuming that I understand simple English. Maybe that is where the problem is again, what? My inabil! ity to read and comprehend ordinary English perhaps :-)?


>(Chandan at first regarded the piece to be a copy from one of the newspapers from Assam. Indirectly >it is a tribute to Assamese journalism in English.)


*** I did? You sure could have fooled me!  But something tells me you are mixing up various instances of displeasures I must have caused you time to time, that has been doing a slow burn on you. The perfect antidote for this condition! , as I  have reminded many a victim of my acerbic criticisms and analytical missiles,in the past is to rebut them. Show why and how I was wrong. No better way to shut me up BK. Trust me, feeding me crow is the way to go ( now you made the bondha-kobi in me acting up too).


>When I said something had been objectively reported, it did not carry the  meaning of 'objective' as given in the >dictionary  ---


*** Now you tell us! BK, why do you forget that you are communicating with a bunch of xaak-khowa, bhat-khowa Kharkhowas who have a hard enough time understanding ordinary English, let alone them higher level stuff like journalistic nuances?

I am of course dying to learn what 'journalistic object! ivity' might be, since it is not the garden variety to be found in English dictionaries as you NOW tell us. But do please point out where the trick-stuff is when you post a ! piece, lest  it goes right over my head again.


>Do we realise that we, the Americans, the British  and many others  pay for the Palestinian side of the war?

*** Somehow, I had the idea that it was so BK. But now that you point it out clearly, would you also be kind enough to share your thoughts  on WHY the USA or Britain or Europe kept pumping money to Arafat and Fatah, knowing full well, that a lot of it was being siphoned off by Arafat and his cronies?  Could it be that the West did so as long as it was expedient to do so? Or could it be that they somehow wised up to that little fact one fine morning recently? Like in helping build the Taliban in Afghanistan,! never having an inkling on what they were creating?


>Former President Yasser Arafat died a rich man. I often wondered how an insurgency leader could amass a fortune? >Now I know.

*** I know how hurtful that must be BK. Can you imagine that? Arafat must have shamed the likes of other darlings of ours from a not too distant past, like Pinochet, Suharto, Marcoses -- Nando and Immy both, and many more.  But I shall spare your sensitivities today.



Best regards,

c :-) :-) :-)

PS: You must not take these things personally BK. Life is too short for that.




At 2:10 PM -0500 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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In a message dated 29/01/2006 19:07:08 GMT Standard Time, BBaruah writes:
There was some interest shown in these pages about the recent elections held in Palestine giving victory to the Hmars, who were known to be no different from the opposite faction, the  ruling Fatahs, as the latter did not abjure violence. I reproduced a news report from The Times on the issue with the comment that I thought the piece to be objective.

 
Chan! dan did not find so and while elaborating on ! his observations he attacked me personally and gratuitously too saying that my assessment was no more than a naïve acceptance of things in general like many others. Well,  I agree,  as a Pole star in the entire firmament cannot shine without the lesser beings.

 
(Chandan at first regarded the piece to be a copy from one of the newspapers from Assam. Indirectly it is a tribute to Assamese journalism in English.)


 
When I said something had been objectively reported, it did not carry the  meaning of 'objective' as given in the dictionary  or by stretches of one's imagination whatever it might be. Objective reporting has a style of its own. More or less the piece has tha! t. I would be very glad to provide specimen of such reporting in my next e-mail. It would be very interesting, I can assure Chandan.

 
The Israeli-Palestine conflict has been long drawn out, a great many people were killed, innocent as well insurgents and combatants and the issue is no longer confined to the boundaries surrounding Israel and Palestine.

 
Do we realise that we, the Americans, the British  and many others  pay for the Palestinian side of the war?  Former President Yasser Arafat died a rich man. I often wondered how an insurgency leader could amass a fortune? Now I know. His daily life resembled that of  a Middle Eastern Prince, travelling the world every now and then and holding parleys with those who mattered.

 
In a nutshell the story could be read in yesterdays's (28.01.06) The Times.(Hamas stands it ground as West demands change) www.timesonline.co.uk/newspapers/0,,175-2013596,00html/      I am not reproducing it as the article should be read with the entire dossier, I mean the background information.

 
Bhuban

 

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