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>But there is a term for those who wait to to see which
way the wind blows before they take a position:
When one supports from a distance,
why is one to wait, brother?
What gain one will
have?
Are you thinking of giving up your
US Citizenship for take up a post of Misinstry?
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:04
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is
rather a Moral Question
At 2:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>an honorable cause
Which may be the WRONG cause as indicated by LDB.
*** Lohit wrote:
If ULFA truly
believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying
force,
why would they surrender?
It does not mean "--may be the
WRONG cause". That is grade school English!
Or
well worth supporting from a distance?.
*** And why not? Is there a prohibition from some Buddhist school or some
such thing of thought that it is sinful? Immoral? Is it an universal and/or
self evident wrong or sin ?
But there is a term for those who wait to to see which way the wind blows
before they take a position: It goes " Sucking up ( to those who may be on the
winning side) and p---ing down( on the side perceived to be losing), a widely
prevalent desi-trait!"
It
is their country, their cause.
What I have to loose?.
*** Only if one is driven by a need to be on the winning side.
I
am US Citizen, as you know.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral
Question
>*** That is why I don't go asking
ULFA to go die for me.
That is what
supporting ULFA means.
*** It does? I learn something everyday.
>Moral support to
die because they are dying anyway?
*** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters
of their own fate.
>By saying they
will go to heaven?
*** You take a guess on that.
>Or you are trying
to make them immortal?
*** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people
look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against
overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of
independence), at great risk to oneself.
>Support a dying
person by providing a Brahmin priest?
Not a chance! Buddhist will be it.
>But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be
WRONG.
*** He also said it may be right. He just did not take
a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a
position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at
the moment.
It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for
taking one part of it aside for childish, semantic
manipulation.
>How do you
make one immortal who die for a wrong cause?
*** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you
need.
'--but I may
decide otherwise if they have a chance to
win'
*** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of
morality.
It is a question
whole Assam has been asking ULFA.
*** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the
matter?
>Show us the
beef.
*** You can't eat it and have it too.
>Are you Lasit or
you are playing games with people of Assam?
*** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no
aspirations of being named a Barphukan, like Badan either.
>Are you real or
are flirting--
Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over.
>-- with the name
of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself?
That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure
out!
Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds.
But they are mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played
with.
Now will you explain YOUR
morality?
At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
*** That is why I don't go asking
ULFA to go die for me.
That is what
supporting ULFA means.
You are supporting
from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are dying
anyway.
>But if
they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL
support
Moral support to
die because they are dying anyway?
By saying they will
go to heaven?
Support a dying
person by providing a Brahmin priest?
Or you are trying
to make them immortal?
But as LDB has
indicated, their cause may be WRONG.
How do you make one
immortal who die for a wrong cause?
'--but I may decide otherwise if
they have a chance to win'
It is a question
whole Assam has been asking ULFA.
Show us the
beef.
Are you Lasit or
you are playing games with people of Assam?
Are you real or are
flirting with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for
yourself?
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a
Moral Question
>When one asks
someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question
of morality, question of >ethics, not of
expediency.
*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me.
But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give
them MORAL support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking
a wet finger into the air to see which way the wind is blowing,
before I decide whether to support them or to damn them; as in : >I will never support the actions of
ULFA from a distance if
I know their cases are doomed
What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is
:'--but I may decide otherwise if they have
a chance to win'
You could not explain the direction of your MORAL COMPASS
more clearly! No doubt it was an accidental disclosure, but the
sub-conscious showed up loud and clear Rajen.
Hai bidhata !
c
At 12:54 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
When one asks someone else to die for something one believe,
that becomes a question of morality, question of ethics, not of
expediency.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather
a Moral Question
>Morally I will
never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their
cases are doomed >as of Subas Bose and
Phizo.
*** That is NOT morality. That is called
expediency!
That damned English language again!!!
At 12:30 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>"*** I don't 'CLAIM
independence for Assam', whatever that means. But as a
well-wisher of Assam I DO INDEED support Assam's
sovereignty aspirations "
-
Chandan:
>I am an US citizen,
as you know. Thus it will be absurd for me to go 'CLAIM
independence for Assam'. That would be elementary, wouldn't you
think?
-
Chandan
>If ULFA truly believes
(rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying
force, why would they surrender? Did Naga leader Phizo ever
surrender? Would
>Subhas Bose have surrendered to the
British?
- LDB
>A very mature letter. A
man after my own heart :-).
-
Chandan
>I have heard of all
kinds of excuses people hold out why independence is scary
for them, but never heard of this boogie you brought
out.
Chandan
Somehow
the above comments bring to my mind as if some of
us are trying to support ULFA the way one would
support "Charge of the Light Brigade" from a distance. We can
always support such aspirirations, and in fact inspire such
aspirations from the comfort of America Armchair, because
we have nothing to loose.
I would rather
comment the same way as Chandan did to Hemenda.
>"And coming from someone like yourself,
who probably claimed US citizenship with a mere five or so years
in the country, enjoying the benefits and protections >of a
secular society with a rule of law,it is that much more
unbecoming, hypocritical"
Morally I will
never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know
their cases are doomed as of Subas Bose and Phizo. Morally I
would have to join them if I believe what they
believe.
RB
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