Ram,
That was fast. You did dig!
The list of papers submitted by his students(they always add their Guide's name -Courtesy) is over time, and looks erudite.
I shall try to analyse within my limited Chem. skills- which paper's findings can do what for India's economy now or when?I am also forwarding this to full-time Chem researchers and let netters share their views.
Let us study in depth what RESEARCH is doing for/to/against India's quest for true progress with the help of Technology.
<<<<He has in fact cancelled his plans and stated that the reissuance of the visa will not change his mind.
Another scientist (P.C. Kesavan, a Madras geneticist specializing in radiation biology ) told the US Consulate that he would NOT provide them any more paper work and that he was not interested any more in going to the US. >>> They are now Sulking!!! They should pursue science till the end if they are convinced that through them , future India Science will get faster Expertize .
From: "Ram Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Washington Post "Indian Scientist Denied Visa " - How dare you!
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:02:32 -0600
Mukul da,Here is one linkfor Dr. Mehta's research work. There are many more in his website, or just by Google search you can view a variet of research/chemisty work of the Dr.>I talked to a Chem. prof.at G.U. He said 'Search me'.This is the first time I have heard of Dr. Mehta, but I have little to with Chemistry and none at all with chem. research.But for a professor of Chem. at GU of not being aware not only surprises but also saddens me.I wonder how a GU prof. in the subject is unaware of an internationally well-known Prof at the Indian Inst. of Science in his own field, is beyond imagination. Prof. Mehta is also the president of theInternational Council for Science.But its not so much about Dr. Mehta's credentials. He WAS NOT refused because he did not have ENOUGH credentials (as you seem to suggest). He was refused because:"State Department officials said yesterday that the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi has granted a visa to a prominent Indian scientist who said he was accused of deception and potential links to chemical weapons production when he applied to aU.S. consulate." - Washington Post>He will teach America and return with a load to advise Rocket Scientists etc. His33rd >two-way trip I learn.He has in fact cancelled his plans and stated that the reissuance of the visa will not change his mind.Another scientist (P.C. Kesavan, a Madras geneticist specializing in radiation biology ) told the US Consulate that he would NOT provide them any more paper work and that he was not interested any more in going to the US.--Ram
On 2/24/06, mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Could somebody gist out Dr. Mehta's special knowledge/expertize/excellence--if not Hindu Chem?
With all the long list of tributes, 'Dozens of Visits to USA',it's a pity nobody discusses his areas of excellence here. I talked to a Chem. prof.at G.U. He said 'Search me'.
By the way Dr. Mehta has now been granted his visa. He will teach America and return with a load to advise Rocket Scientists etc. His33rd two-way trip I learn.
I really admire his Energy and Jet-Lag-Immunity!
mm
From: "Ram Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Malabika Brahma" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "mc mahant" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Washington Post "Indian Scientist Denied Visa " - How dare you!
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:05:34 -0600
I agree Utpal,The way Mukul da makes it out to be, one would think Tom (Friedman), umpteen US universities, businesses etc must have got fooled by those damn Indians pretending to know something.I haven't read the World is Flat - but have resorted to Charlie Rose and Tom for a complete synopsis.--Ram
On 2/24/06, Malabika Brahma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Actually it is rather embarrassing that I (with absolutely no credential compared to Dr. Mehta) was issued a visa way back when whereas Dr. Mehta was refused. The scientific community in the US is embarrased as well.
Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Dear Mukul Da,
>And what does he try to teach USA? Hindu Chemistry?
Ain't that something? Anything Indian/of Indian/by Indian is automatically suspect and subject to contempt.
Even if you don't like it, sometimes credit must be given where its due. As for trying to "teach" the USA, most US Universities have Indians as professors. These professors/scientists have paid their dues, are very well educated, competed among the best in the world, and are some of the best the world has to offer. And a number of them happen to be Assamese.
Yes, they are teaching the USA and very well too, and have been teaching American students for many decades now.
As for Mehta's credentials - they seem pretty good. Do you think Universities in the US, Germany, Britain, Japan and elsewhere would have someone teach/lecture without solid credentials? And that too when he is supposed to teach them 'Hindu Chemistry', whatever that means.
Well, here are some professional achievements of Dr. Mehta. They may not be the best and upto some standards, nevertheless are impressive.
--Ram____________________
Research Associate, Michigan State and Ohio State Universities, USA, 1967 - 69.
Lecturer and Assistant Professor, Indian Institute of Technology, Kanpur, 1969 - 77.
Professor, University of Hyderabad, Hyderabad, India, 1977 - 98, Founder Dean 1977 - 86.
Vice-Chancellor, University of Hyderabad, Hyderabad, India, 1994 - 98.
Visiting Professor, Michigan State University, USA, 1982.
Visiting Professor, University of Notre Dame, USA, 1990.
Honorary Professor, Jawaharlal Nehru Center for Advanced Scientific Research, India, 1990 -
Visiting Professor, University of Joseph Fourier, Grenoble, France, 1991.
Visiting Professor, Chemical Research Centre, Taiwan, 1994.
Humboldt Forschungspreis Awardee, University of Freiburg, Germany, 1995.
Srinivasa Ramanujan Research Professor, Indian National Science Academy, 1992 - 97.
Professor, Department of Organic Chemistry, Indian Institute of Science, 1998 - 2005.
Director, Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, 1998 - 2005.
Merck Visiting Professor, University of Nottingham, UK, 1998.
Visiting Professor, Ecole Normale Superiere de Chimie, Paris, France, 1999.
Humboldt Forschungspreis Awardee, University of Heidelburg, Germany, 2000.
Tarrant Distinguished Visiting Professor, University of Florida, Gainesville, USA, 2001.
Distinguished Visiting Professor, Kyoto Institute of Technology, Kyoto, Japan, 2002.
Mercator Professor, Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (DFG), Germany, 2003, 2005.
Honorary Fellow, Indian Association for the Cultivation of Science (IACS), Kolkata, 2005>
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> <<< My visa application was cleared in a month only --since school education is a harmless subject - but had I been a sciecne student in say nano technology - my application might have taken about 6 months to clear - if it all.>>>
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> That's elementary-My Dear Watson!
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> What is not elementary is-What does he go to US - Dozens of times- for?
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> And what does he try to teach USA? Hindu Chemistry?
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> And what he comes back and teaches MMS--isn't he billed as top technical adviser to Delhi?
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> Mukul-da,
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> Unless you are trying for a non-techical visa to come to USA - your application would take longer to clear. Esp if your field of study happens to be related to security issues - such as defense systems or nuclear technology -- then your visa application would be sent out of India - to USA and would have to cleared by higher , spceialist authorities. Thats the standard procedure. My visa application was cleared in a month only --since school education is a harmless subject - but had I been a sciecne student in say nano technology - my application might have taken about 6 months to clear - if it all.
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> <<<Mehta's case has especially angered Indians because he was a director of the Indian Institute of Science and is a science adviser to India's prime minister. He has visited the United States "dozens of times," he said, and the University of Florida in Gainesville had invited him to lecture at an international conference.
> State Department spokesman Justin Higgins denied yesterday that the United States had rejected Mehta's visa and said the consulate had merely followed standard procedure in dealing with applicants with certain kinds of scientific expertise.>>>
> scientific expertise? What kind?
> Poor chap was only trying to teach USA !
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