At 1:21 AM +0100 5/4/06, umesh sharma wrote:
50% of seats in educational institutions run by minorities are reserved for members of their own faith.
*** Tsk, tsk! How unfair to the majority! My heart bleeds
:-)!
Govt cannot interfere in institutions run by minorities -- cannot enforce reservation for Dalits in them, cannot dictate rules -unlike in secualr or Hindu run ones .
*** Can you help us understand this by referring to the law and
its wording?
Though linguistic and religious minorities are identified - mostly religous minorities are vocal.
*** Say what?
I wonder how have you forgotten the special rights of minorities . If I remember correctly C-da it was you who had done internet search to identify that particular Article of Indian constitution which promoted those rights.
*** I did? Well I learn something everyday Umesh. Thanks for
reminding me. Except I still don't remember EVER doing that. Must be
the onset of senile dementia or Alzheimer's rapture or some such
thing.
ALso there is the National Commission for Minorities -- no such for Majorities (Hindus/majority) .
*** Oh, my gosh! How very unfair!!
If you wish we can dig up more facts.
*** Please do and please do share. For you shall do the
hapless,oppressed majority of India an enormous favor.
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Religious minorities have special rights in India as per Indian constitution.*** Really? What rights do the minority religions have that the majority religion/s are deprived of?At 10:53 PM +0100 5/3/06, umesh sharma wrote:
Religious minorities have special rights in India as per Indian constitution. Period.
Law favors their views. Whether it is about reservation in admissions in educational institutions or films hurting religous sentiments - minorities have a special status.
Once you correct that imbalance in the constitution - perhaps then court could become as viable a course of corrective action for Hindus as for Christians or Muslims.
What hurts sentiments is a subjective issue - and educated people in India in general are afraid of seeming boorish by hurting sentiments of those who follow faiths popular in the West. Noone cares so much about hurting sentimenst of Sikhs or Jains or Buddhists or Hindus .
Umesh
Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My question then is well why then the Hindus did not protest against the film, like the Kerela Christians did?
Where is the protest to ban the film?
Why the Hindus did not go to court to stop the film?
And if there was why it failed?
Don't say the Muslims and the Christians demanded to see the film?
The way I see it, the Hindus have failed to make case like the Kerela Christians and they are crying now.
Please note I may be wrong on some assumptions, I am going with what you are posting and trying to make a case.
from what you are posting, something is fishy.
RB
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Rajen-da,
The common thread is that when someone raises an issue which presents the negative aspects of a group its members raise an outcry.
Recently a Indian film (called "Sins" http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/hindi/review/7455.html ) based on a real story of a Roman Catholic Priest from Kerala sexually harassed an underage teenager --raised a similar outcry by Indian Bishops and other Catholic priests who even went to courts and got a stay against its screening. Why didn't the (westernized) secularists say that it was alright to screen that story in India - then they defended minority rights.
About Da Vinchi Code (about Christ's love story with Mary Mag.) and RC Pope's response- you know better.
Tomorrow someone would come up with a film about Prophet Muhammad or about Marx-Engels love story which would be banned in Islamic countires and China /Cuba etc respectively.
Umesh
Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why you try to bring the similarities of other religions?
Just to show that it is a matter-of-fact thing nothing to get excited about?
Anyway the similarities did not match.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
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Not surprising. Just like the Pope Benedict's ire against Da Vinchi Code and Gospel of Judas or like Muslim demonstrations against cartoons of Prophet Muhammad.
Communists would perhaps object to the notion that Marx and Engels were gay lovers -as has been recently reported.
:)
Umesh
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