about being 'qualified' engineers while casting aspersions on bamboo-reinforced concrete construction ought to think about the
substance and depth of their own 'qualifications'.
He thought he knows something about Strength of materials -of bonding between cellulosic fibres and Portland Cement, Magnesian Cement and the Bamboo Solution For Steel-less Oxom, of green solutions to the Global Energy Crisis.
Leave him to his Cock-and -bull stories.
Do not try to beat a donkey to race with times.
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From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected], "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Mount Radhanath, NOT Mount Everest
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:21:03 -0500
>However, your quotation is wrong: the correct Assamese phrase is 'adak dekhi >uthil ga, keturie bwle mwkw kha"--- keturi looks like ginger (ada) ---Correction!" Dekhak dekhi uthil ga, keturie bwle mwkw kha " is an equally accepted and correct form of the old Oxomiya proverb.( Similarly " dekhak dekhi kukurew kore ekadoxi")"-- the phrase is used to describe a situation when an unqualified person fakes as an expert,"That is not what the proverb means. It means a look-alike attempting to pose as the real thing, a me-too stance, where the issue of qualification does not feature.Also the 'qualification' issue alluded to here means little, particularly since most of those 'qualified' desi civil-engineers grossly over-designing structures, because their engineering 'expertise' is based on little more than an ability to apply standard formulae and design tables, lacking even a rudimentary sense of materials and behavior of structures. If you let one design an Oxomiya bamboo and timber structure, more than likely they would end up designing something like a north_Indian fortress.Finally, I have a question:>--similar to Mr. Mukul Mahanta manufacturing reinforced concrete houses with bamboo reinforcement.*** Did he really? Gosh, my brother must be really secretive. He never told me or showed me one that he did. Well, we learn something everyday from the 'qualified' amongst us.BTW, do the 'qualified' desi engineers consider bamboo-reinforced concrete something of a gosot-goru-utha or Goneshe' gakhir-khowa kotha ( outlandish or preposterous concept) ? If I remember correctly, Japanese engineers first developed the concept and applied it in highway construction. And for the not so qualified amongst us, take a look at : http://www.romanconcrete.com/docs/bamboo1966/BambooReinforcedConcreteFeb1966.htmPerhaps those with pretensions about being 'qualified' engineers while casting aspersions on bamboo-reinforced concrete construction ought to think about thesubstance and depth of their own 'qualifications'.At 1:36 AM -0400 5/15/06, Himendra Thakur wrote:Dear Barua,
I first read the name Radhanath Sikdar in 1943 in a Book of Knowledge. I was quite young at that time. That was the time when older boys were fighting for independence from the British. As a younger volunteer, I was with the older boys who raised questions why the Victoria Memorial Hall was not ground to dust, or why the Peak was named after a British instead of Radhanath. That was the mood during the struggle for independence. Your charge "To suggest that the name of Mt Everest be changed simply because "so many re-naming going on" is baseless.
However, when I wrote to Umesh on May 14, 2006, I wrote about Radhanath Sikdar from memory, and I used the phrase I think which you highlighted with red colour. I agree with you that When something is not based on the whole truth, it will not give you Sat Sid Anand . but I did urge the netters to dig out the history and discuss the matter in the net which you deliberately missed and conveniently forgot to highlight with your red colour.
It is a fact that that I did mention about so many re-naming going on which gave you a golden opportunity to fling your jibe 'dekhak dekhi uthil ga, keturie bwle mwkw kha" This reminds me Mr. Chandan Mahantas jibe khai pat phala when he came to know that I had not taken US citizenship. After all, a golden opportunity is a golden opportunity, you must not miss any opportunity to hurl a jibe. However, your quotation is wrong: the correct Assamese phrase is 'adak dekhi uthil ga, keturie bwle mwkw kha"--- keturi looks like ginger (ada) --- the phrase is used to describe a situation when an unqualified person fakes as an expert, similar to Mr. Mukul Mahanta manufacturing reinforced concrete houses with bamboo reinforcement.
In the pre-independence days, we heard the British saying about Indians ---- Indian brains worked under the guidance and instruction of the British. But till the British came, Indians even did not know what to do with the mountain peak except worshiping. Indians have no idea that these need to be measured, explored etc. Now we hear it from you.
During the oil-refinery movement of 1959, the non-Assamese experts of oil-industry used to say about the Assamese Assamese can work only under the guidance and instruction of the non-Assamese Experts. Till they came, Assamese did not know what to do with the oil fields except holding Bihu --- Assamese have no idea that these need to be measured, explored ---etc. Now we hear it from you.
Survey technique was not invented by the British alone --- many Europeans contributed to that science. Following your logic, we will end up with Galileo who "invented" telescope that was ultimately used as a theodolite. Or, we should name the Peak after Pythagoras, the Father of Trigonometry.
The person who found that the Peak #15 was the tallest mountain in the world was Radhanath Sikdar. I urge the netters to find out the details of the truth.
With the best wishes,Himendra
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