Rajib:
I donot think Hinduism takes that
view that Buddhism is a part of Hinduism. I have not seen any definition of
Hinduism till now which states that Hindism believes as well as not believe
in God.
If you see one, please let me
know.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajib Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Pankaj Saharia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>; "Dilip K.
Datta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Ginima Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Hindu-Christian Big-Bang
Theory
>
> You might also just point out that there are different
> schools of thought within the Hindu fold and that has
> always been so. That is why Buddhism is also
> considered a part of Hindudom by some. There is
> nothing contradictory or affirmatory about the fact
> that they are sometimes at tangents. It is just the
> way it is. They co-exist.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rajib
>
>
> --- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Umesh:
> > Yes. For Christian, I should have written the term
> > Judio-Christian which include all three (Jadism,
> > Christian and Islam). Bahai, Sikh are modern
> > religions, and we may exclude. I donot think they
> > have separate creation theories.
> > But the point I am making is this:
> > The purpose God in Religions is one and one only.
> > They need a God as an operator to start the
> > universe. That is there must be someone who started
> > all this creation. Normally we cannot imagine the
> > universe the way we find it as a self operating
> > automatic eternal system without a creator - which
> > the Budhist philosophy prescribe.
> > In Hindusim, we find many different self
> > contradictory creation theories. Sometimes it tells
> > that the system is eternal and then it will say
> > there is a God who started all this. The point is if
> > we believe it is eternal, then Buddhist theory is
> > correct and we donot need anybody to start it, and
> > God becomes irrelevent and all our worship to God
> > meaningless. (If it is etenrnal and running under a
> > set of laws, why we need a God?). It seems to me
> > that Hinduism actually wants both, it wants to have
> > and eat the cake at the same time. In the process,
> > theism in Hindusim becomes very week indeed unlike
> > Judio-Christian religion where we have a strong God
> > without any ifs and buts. In Hindusim we donot have
> > strong God (that is Allah) who speaks to us.
> > Please read more and ask me questions so that we can
> > clarify.
> > RB
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: umesh sharma
> > To: Barua25 ; Himendra Thakur
> > Cc: Pankaj Saharia ; Ginima Barua ; Dilip K. Datta
> > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected]
> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 1:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Hindu-Christian Big-Bang
> > Theory
> >
> >
> > Rajen-da and Himendra-da,
> >
> > Why leave out other religions who follow the Old
> > testament -which describes the Creation aspect. So
> > it should be
> > Hindu-Jewish-Christian-Muslim-Bahai-Sikh(?) Big Bang
> > Theory :)
> >
> > Umesh
> >
> > Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear Hineda:
> > The Nasadiya Sukta of Rik Veda is also a
> > creation theory which basically says that there was
> > a beginning.
> >
> > "It is a "cosmology" hymn, that seeks to explain
> > the origin of creation. Briefly, it describes the
> > chaos that preceded creation, when there was neither
> > death nor immortality. From this chaos, the "One",
> > animated by its own impulse, breathed and came into
> > existence. (Big Bang?) From the unfathomable depths
> > of water, from the darkness of the cosmic void,
> > emerged this spirit, animated by desire."
> >
> > If you are thinking that Big Bang theory does
> > not confrm to the Nasadiiya Sukta, that is a non
> > conformance of degree only and not of kind. Both
> > the Hindu creation theory (Nasadiya Sukta) and the
> > Big Bang theory basically says that the universe was
> > created once uon a time.
> >
> > The Buddhist theory says that these is no
> > beginning of the universe at all.
> > Buddhist theory is against the Big Bang theory
> > and the Nasadiya Sukta also. (In fact I was trying
> > give credit to the Hindu theory that it conforms to
> > science). It does not see any difference bewteen the
> > Big Bang theory and the Nasadiya Sukta.
> >
> > In Hinduism iteself you will find many other
> > self contradictions if you dig the criptures. Self
> > contradiction is part of Hindu philosophy.
> >
> > RB
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Himendra Thakur
> > To: Barua25
> > Cc: [email protected] ; Ginima Barua ;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Pankaj Saharia ; Dilip
> > K. Datta
> > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang Theory
> >
> >
> > Dear Barua,
> >
> > Kindly check the Nasadiya Sukta of Rik Veda.
> > That appears to be in contradiction to what you have
> > said about Hinduism.
> >
> > With the best wishes,
> > Himendra
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Barua25
> > To: Himendra Thakur
> > Cc: Ginima Barua ;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Pankaj Saharia ; Dilip
> > K. Datta ; [email protected]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang Theory
> >
> >
> > Himenda:
> > Specifically the Big Bang theory of the
> > origin of our universe is a scientific theory and
> > not a religious theory. However, I am calling it a
> > Hindu-Christian theory simply becuse the theory of
> > Big Bang conforms to the views of religions like
> > Christianity, Hindusim and all other theistic
> > religions that believe in God.
> >
> > The very basic of a belief in one God is
> > that it is God who created this universe 'once upon
> > a time'. Although actual creation theories may be
> > different in different religions, but the sense is
> > the same that our universe has a beginning and this
> > beginning was done by God 'once upon a time'.
> >
> > Scientists, mostly God fearing Christians,
> > are also trying to prove scientifically that our
> > universe has an origin and this origin was the time
> > when 'big bang' occurred some billions of years ago.
> >
> >
> > Buddhism does not support this view.
> > According to Buddhism, briefly speaking,
> > there is no God who started this universe, and the
> > universe does not have a beginning.
> >
> > A minority scientists support this Buddhist
> > view that our universe does not have a beginning.
> >
> > RB
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Himendra Thakur
> > To: Barua25
> > Cc: Ginima Barua ;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Pankaj Saharia ; Dilip
> > K. Datta ; [email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:05 PM
> > Subject: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang Theory
> >
> >
> > Dear Barua,
> >
> > Why are are you calling "Big-Bang" a
> > "Hindu-Christian" Theory ?
> >
> > With the best wishes,
> > Himendra
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Barua25
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> > [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Wiki: For Rajen-da:
> > Buddha's previous births :Boddisattvas, Hindu
> > Incarntaions etc
> >
> >
> > Umesh:
> > I never said Buddhist does not believe
> > in rebirth. The theory of "Karma" and "rebirth" are
> > parts of Buddhist philosophy. But these philosophies
> > are somewhat different from Hindu counterparts
> > because basically Buddhists donot believe in the
> > (Hindu-Christian) "soul" theory, and the "God"
> > theory. Both these concepts are illogical according
> > to Buddhist philosophy. That makes the difference.
> > Buddhist philosophy conform to modern science of
> > "Quantum Physics", "Conservation of Energy" etc.
> > The "God" theory does not. Buddhist philosophy does
> > not believe in the Hindu-Christian "Big Bang" theory
> > that God started this Universe by pressing a switch.
> > RB
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: umesh sharma
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:37 AM
> > Subject: [Assam] Wiki: For Rajen-da:
> > Buddha's previous births : Boddisattvas,Hindu
> > Incarntaions etc
> >
> >
> > For Rajen-da,
> >
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