>Should be ULFO going by the discussion here
Heard they would drop the L.
On 9/14/06, Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A rudimentary question: Does the ULFA write it as Oxom
or Assam or Asom?
Should be ULFO going by the discussion here!
--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva
> released(>*** About the 'Sankaradeva' spelling for
> example, could it have been that when the first
> British colonial masters >transliterated the name,
> were also people who were Xongskrit learners, and
> could not separate the Assamese from its Sanskrit
> connections? Thus they chose to Sanskritize an
> Assamese name, when they transliterated them in
> English.
>
> Chandan:
> You donot know what truth you are speaking. As a
> matter of fact, the British Missionaries tried to
> write the English transliteration as well as the
> Assamese spelling the way the Assamese spoke the
> language. But since 'Yandabu Xondhi', with the
> opening of the pan-Indian flood-gate to Assam, the
> Assamese were so much overwhelmed under Pan Indian
> Sanskrit influence, that the Assamese of those days
> were completely baffled and confused about the
> unique position and originality of the of the
> Assamese language. Many learned Assamese in fact
> thought that Assamese was a direct descendent of
> Sanskrit and it should better conform to Sanskrit.
> (Read Kaliram Medhi and Dimbeswar Neog to know that
> it is not). With this thought in mind, many learned
> Assamese fought against the Baptist missionaries and
> were able to bend the Assamese language too much
> towards Sanskrit standard.
>
> On this important battle within the Assamese
> language, please read the following summary excerpts
> from an article by Dr Maheswar Neog which appeared
> as the Introduction to a print of the dictionary
> "Hemkwx".
>
> "The Baptist Mission in Sibsagar published the
> monthly magazine 'Orundoi' in 1846. It wanted the
> written form of words strictly to 'correspond with
> the actual pronunciation of the people.' The biggest
> advocate of this system was Rev. Nathan Brown, who
> argued in its favor in the journal against criticism
> of Assamese writers like Hemchandra Barua. In
> "Grammatical Notices of the Assamese Language",
> (1848) Brown upheld the same principal. Then in 1867
> Miles Bronson published the first Assamese
> "Dictionary in Assamese and English". from the
> Baptist Mission at Sibsagar. " Bronson's system of
> orthography in his dictionary was framed and
> dictated by the Baptist' monthly journal 'Orundoi'.
> However, Hemchandra Barua, who was presented by
> Bronson personally with a copy of the dictionary was
> absolutely revolted by the system. He expressed
> himself against Bronson's work in strongest terms:
> "Its orthography is absolutely wrong and .... will
> be of no use to the learners of Assamese." Thus
> Barua fought and won the battle against the
> Baptists. Hemchandra Barua then proceeded to publish
> his own dictionary which was based on several
> Sanskrit-English, Bengali-English,
> Hindi-Urdu-English dictionaries. ....Hemchandra was
> not very scientific in his etymological notes and
> he did not exploit Old Assamese literature for
> sources of his words or their history.... "
>
> "Bronson adheres to the form actually conforming
> with the speaker while very often Hemchandra Barua
> neglects it and tries to make the words conform to
> the original Sanskrit to the extent of utter
> disregard of later development of the word. The
> Assamese language therefore did not take the course
> the Baptists writers like Brown and Bronson wanted
> it to take, and was soon reclaimed to Sanskrit
> standards even though not always on a sound basis."
> - Dr Maheswar Neog.
>
> Hemchandra's dictionary was published in 1900 which
> took the Assamese language too much towards the
> Sanskrit language. While many writers realized this
> but nobody actually tried to do anything about it.
> By early nineteenth century Assamese writers were so
> much under Sanskrit influence in Assamese
> transliteration can be seen from the following quote
> from a writing of Dr Birinch Kumar Barua in his
> "History of Assamese Literature". Instead of trying
> to support the Baptist Mission, he was already under
> the influence of Sanskrit through "Hemkwx".
>
> About Bronson's dictionary he wrote:
> "Bronson's spelling was based on spoken language
> which does always conform to the written style.
> Hence his dictionary doesn't have much practical
> utility today."
>
> I also noticed that Dr Barua changed the Roman
> spelling of 'Orundoi' as 'Arunday' in the above
> book.
>
> Thus starting with Hemchandra Barua down to Dr
> Birinchi Kumar Barua and after, all were under the
> influence of Sanskrit standrd at the sacrice of the
> Assamese standard. Today, there is hardly any
> original thinking from any Assamese scholars. The
> Assamese nation is bankrupt and is simply running on
> its past inretia. The English transliteration that
> were made to corresponding Sanskrit spellings
> continues unabated and followed religiously by
> educated people like BK-da.
>
> Sanakaradeva-Ramayana-Kamrupa-Asom-Sahitya-Sabha
> Zindabad.
>
> I wonder how much of this Assamese mental bankruptcy
> has actually contributed to the formation of
> insurgent groups like ULFA.
>
> RB.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chan Mahanta
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of
> Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...
>
>
> Dear BK:
>
>
> I can't see HOW the Oxom Xahityo Xobha could
> become the sole custodian of the Assamese language
> or the Assamese identity.
>
>
> It is typical of desi-demokrasy, where elections
> seem to bestow dictatorial/monarchical powers to
> bureaucrats and elected reps., and the ignorant
> public takes it lying down, while the
> intelligentsia, similarly clueless remain invisible
> and silent.
>
>
> >Rajen ought to get a full hearing as anybody
> else.
>
>
> *** It is NOT just Rajen's pet peeve. It is an
> issue for all Assamese who care about its 'ostitwo',
> its claim to an identity all its own, without
> apologies, without having to bow to ANYONE.
>
>
> It is those who have no self esteem, continue to
> kow-tow to superior language gods, be it Xongskrit,
> be it English.
>
>
>
>
> *** About the 'Sankaradeva' spelling for example,
> could it have been that when the first British
> colonial masters transliterated the name, were also
> people who
> were Xongskrit learners, and could not separate
> the Assamese from its Sanskrit
> connections? Thus they chose to Sanskritize an
> Assamese name, when they transliterated them in
> English.
>
>
> Once that happened, the subject people, and even
> their intellectuals albeit similarly burdened by a
> subject mentality, could not imagine transliterating
> Xongkordev. Instead they followed the steps of their
> colonial masters.
>
>
> And to this day, some, including for example the
> AT, cannot imagine breaking from that tradition of
> colonial servitude, just like many of Assam's
> intelligentsia.
>
>
> But why should WE?
>
>
> Best.
>
>
> c
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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