Mukul-da,
You have amazing ability to present startling politically incorrect views but
you are right --some of those are consensual relationships -- but even in such
cases other students lose out. You should see the movie Devakki (
www.bwcinema.com ) how females are sexually exploited in many workplaces (MNC
like).
***If the harassers and harassees consent and enjoy-so let them carry on in
the true spirit of liberalization.
Umesh
mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<The University of Delhi has had a long history of sexual harassment>
Every PROBLEM has a solution:
If the harassers are generically Delhiites, take Delhi Univ. to an Ashram in
Himalayas.
If the harassers and harassees consent and enjoy-so let them carry on in
the true spirit of liberalization.
Also Define Harrassment and have long debates in the parliament--write Laws!
Let there be lots of Consenting ,Harrassed ,Ph.D's
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From: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] TOI: getting PhD in India!!!?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:20:22 +0000 (GMT)
Mukul-da,
You didn't comment on the professors --but only on the PhD seekers. I
wonder why?
Till master's level you have to take written exams only (mostly) but for
PhD the prof. becomes God.
At KMC Delhi Univ my hostel mates in science dept complained that local
Delhiite/Punjabi guys, all girls etc got much more marks in laboratory than
Biharis and hostelers in general --so they had to make up for that by
performing better in written exams.
Ofcourse, except for some elite univs like Delhi univ, JNU , Bombay or
other metro univs and engg/medical/mba programs --most univs do not see profs
inside classrooms (mostly) -so to make the profs take pains for hD guidance
there has to be someee quid-pro-quo. Thats reasonable to expect, isn't it?
Umesh
PS: Old news: http://www.sacw.net/Wmov/DayalSinghCase.html
The University of Delhi has had a long history of sexual harassment. Each
case that has surfaced in the University during the past two decades shows how
deeply entrenched sexual harassment is and how difficult it is to fight it and
take each case to its logical conclusion. The University witnessed a series of
suicides by female research scholars in the 1980s in a science department. A
huge agitation in and outside the campus forced the authorities to set up an
inquiry. The inquiry found the Professor guilty of sexual harassment which had
led to serial suicides. A combined committee of the Executive Council and
Academic Council was formed to recommend the course of action in the case, but
the Professor virtually escaped punishment; he acquired an exclusive laboratory
in the South Campus. It took Sushma Merh of the Department of Adult Continuing
Education eight years just to be heard. The Justice Wad Committee was set up
only when the Vice-Chancellor was confronted with an issue of the magazine
Manushi at an international feminist conference abroad. This contained details
of Sushma Merhs harassment. The inquiry revealed that not only Sushma Merh but
nearly twenty other women had been subjected to sexual harassment by S.C.
Bhatia, the Head of the Department. In this instance, too, the culprit
continued to be in his position with demotion for a long time. In the specific
instance of Beena Rani, a safai karamchari in Hindu College, the college
authorities whitewashed the whole issue. It was only through a struggle by a
tiny but determined section of the students, teachers and karamcharis of the
University that the university saw the first inquiry committee being set up
according to the Supreme Court guidelines in the Vishakha case. In this
instance it was the intervention of the National Commission of
Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes that led to the constitution of this
committee. Here the committee left its task unfinished; it did not consider a
crucial piece of evidence saying that it was not in their purview to get
someones signatures authenticated. The NGO representative on the committee was
not from one having tackled such cases and it substantially represented the
interests of the authorities. By this time lots of spurious NGOs had come into
existence to find place in the committees on sexual harassment established
according to the Supreme Court guidelines. In another instance at Hindu
College, a female teacher was abused and chased by a male colleague in the
staff-room in the presence of a large number of her colleagues including some
feminist activists. The Staff Association and authorities of the college did
nothing in the case. In a case of sexual harassment of a librarian in Ramjas
College, the inquiry remained incomplete because the complainant
withdrew the case under family pressure.
In each one of these cases the authorities attempted to stop the case from
being raised. If by the sheer tenacity of the victim, the issue got raised, the
inquiry committees invariably did not do their job properly. If in rare
instances, such as the Wad Committee in Sushma Merh case the committee did its
job properly, the decision-making processes to decide on the punishment of the
guilty often faltered. In each case social pressures, including family
pressures, were exerted on the victim to withdraw the case.
mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I cleaned classrooms
too at Harvard --but not to please my profs but to earn money to stay alive.
SO you followed Gita's edict"I have the right only to work-not to expect
results"
No wonder nobody in Gita got a Harvard /Ahmedabad Ph.D.
Ph.D. is all about getting a better scale of pay(UGC).
In Indian TV discussion forums(fora) one sees" Ph.D. Scientists" pining
how China produces annually more than 28000 Engineering/Science/Technology
Ph.D's and India --"Not even 10000"
Heartrending?!
mm
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From: umesh sharma
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Assam] TOI: getting PhD in India!!!?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:58:50 +0000 (GMT)
I cleaned classrooms too at Harvard --but not to please my profs but to
earn money to stay alive. I was the only graduate student member (perhaps) of
Harvard Dormmmmm Crew http://dormcrew.com/termtime/index.html
Good that some Indian profs have become professional enough to keep
time-sheets of the sweeping work done by their students -towards their PhD
grades.
Umesh
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Want_PhD_Look_for_jhadu/articleshow/987638.cms
Want PhD? Look for a 'jhadu'
AHMEDABAD: Remember that Jaspal Bhatti comedy
show, where a PhD student spent more than half of his research time buying
groceries, booking rail tickets and mopping floors for his guide in order to
get his thesis done on time?
Well, that may have been reel life. But in real life too, Jigar Patel, a
research scholar at Gujarat University's chemistry department, went through all
of this. And his guide VK Jain insisted that Patel maintain a daily activity
log sheet mentioning this non-academic work and even signed it.
A year into his research, a frustrated Patel has filed an application under the
Right to Information Act, seeking answers from the university on whether
mopping lab floors, repairing electrical equipment, booking tickets for his
guide formed part of his research topic 'Calix Pyroles and Its Applications'.
Patel claims in his application that he was asked by Jain to do odd
jobs like repairing his scooters flat tyre and depositing cheques. Patel has
submitted a copy of the log book. An entry in Patel's log sheet on October 16,
2005, which carries Jain's signature, states, "Went to BSNL office, creation
for printer work, post-office, watch shop for repairing, complex preparation of
dyes and computer work."
Another entry dated September 19, 2005 reads, "Printer repair, mouse change and
searched for 'Jhaadu' (broom)." Similar entries
appear practically every day till September this year on Patel's log sheet.
"After going through my daily log sheet, no one would believe that I did
complex research. I filed the RTI application to bring to the universitys
notice the harassment we face from some guides. It is time students came out in
the open," said Patel.
"Students resist protests against errant teachers fearing
that it may ruin their academic career as the guide may refuse to give a
recommendation. But these issues need to be brought out in public and
authorities held responsible," says sociologist Gaurang Jani.
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