Re: [Assam] See what the revolutionaries are upto!

[mc mahant]

Game Plan--did you say?

Sovereignty-Sovereignty-Sovereignty!

Rest--we will swim when we come to the river.  Not for public consumption -NOW.

MM

 

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From:  "Manoj Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  "Chan Mahanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ASSAMNET <assam@assamnet.org>
Subject:  Re: [Assam] See what the revolutionaries are upto!
Date:  Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:36:14 +0530

Dear C/M'da

We would like to know the game plan as perceived by you. Let there be an open discussion on that. I am ready to change my understanding provided it's acceptable and logical.

Rgds
MK

On 1/10/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> wrote:

Hi Manoj:

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Unfortunately, EVEN I know what you write is a skewed and

extremely simplistic

view of what has been going on and what is involved. You and many

other fine people are not using your intellectual abilities to really

delve  into the whys and hows of it all, and lapping up the

mindless spin dissed out by the Indian state with full complicity of

Assam establishment.

But it does not take any genius to see thru the game. All one has

to ask are questions like I posed. If there are credible answers to

them then one might concede there might be some merit . But is there? 

Could YOU answer them? Can anyone do? Try it, it might do us all some

good.

Best.

c-da

At 11:11 AM +0530 1/10/07, Manoj Das wrote:

Dear C'da

ULFA has started as an offshoot of Assam agitation. They were the most

firebrand and patriotic section of the AASU agitation. Initially they

did certain things like punishing drunkards, eve teasers, corrupt

officials in public to gain public acceptance and send in a message

that they are the ones who will bring in the governance and cleanse

the system. ULFA's sovereign Assam, the boundaries are yet to be

defined and  I doubt if they  have any  clue.

Bodoland, Mishing autonomous, Karbi, Dewri, Tiwa autonomous areas 

are  out.  So are the  tea  gardens.  Then

the  overlapping  areas with  Nagalim.  So the 

sovereign  Assam  is a  landlocked entity. It can have

an exit through Bangladesh through the great river.

Why my reasoning? Well our brothers had to take haven in bangladesh

due to various reasons. Bhutan, Myanmar, China etc. were too difficult

and Bangladesh offered them a safe passage with a calculated design to

hijack the steam out of the original anti foreigner campaign of ULFA.

They become "hol mash in kholoha". The leaders family,

money, lives all are in the hands of DGFI and ISI. When did you hear

from them about the foreigner issue? Now they are a mere ISI agent,

trying to destabilise the region and create a mischief. Public support

has waned from the day ULFA forgot about the foreigners.

Assam has been systemtically subjugated by the British and then the

Centre to snuff out the proudness and aggressiveness of the people. We

were the only people subjected to opium alongwith  the Chinese. 

After independence  investments  per capita were the lowest

from the planning commission. Add that to the influx of immigrants

both legal and illegal. The denominator got buldged further. The

resources like oil, coal, water were taken in central list 

and health, education, law and order were pushed to state list. State

was made to beg before centre despite its huge resources.

Now if ULFA can bargain and sit down, it should look for an amiable

solution like the BLT. Get maximum from the centre. Take own flag,

anthem, ask to give resources to state list. Ask for a consolidatef

fund equivaent to the NPV of the resources taken out of the state in

last 60 years. Make all the "khilonjiya basindas" tribal

under VIth schedule. Such a provision is available for residents of

Kinnaur in HP. In that case the current constitution of India will

provide the security to our people, whatever is retrievable. Ask for

power to negotiate and do border trade. make Assam the hub for trade

with the ASEAN and China.

Everyone knows that with 1000 cadre ULFA cannot fight the Indian Army.

It was chased out by the negligible Bhutanese Army. Killing few

innocent unarmed fellws here and there will only complicate the issue

and bring hardships for the poor Assamese villagers. "Kerketuai

tamul khai, neulok bandhi kilai".

We missed the first industrial revolution, green revolution, IT

revolution. Now we are about the miss the bus again in the resurgent

India. We have been endowed. But like "horina-r mangkshoi 

boiri" - it has become a curse.

In our argumets none will win. But there is definitely a loser and she

is "ai oxom"

Rgds

MKD

On 1/8/07, Chan Mahanta < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

Manoj:

I am NOT at all involved in these things for PERSONAL

reasons. If we cannot discuss it in public, then it is not worth

discussing at all. If we cannot discuss the public interest in PUBLIC,

then something has to be WRONG with what we cannot air in public. In

that neither you, nor I ought to indulge in.

c-da

At 9:45 PM +0530 1/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:

Dear C'da

The issue is very sensitive to discuss in public domain. I'll explain

my belief in a private mail.

Rgds

Manoj

On 1/8/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

Hi Manoj:

At 8:17 AM +0530 1/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:

Hello C'da

The reasoning that I gave is the fact, everybody knows that, including

you. History will tell who is correct and that day is not very far in

time!

Cheers!!

*** You did not address the questions I asked abut the

reasoning you gave. To await history's verdict will be like GWB

banking on history to prove his

righteousness about Iraq.

If the Sentinel theory you passed on as the gospel truth

had any validity, then you should be able to explain how it addresses

the questions I raised. Why don't you give it a try explaining instead

of banking on history to do it for you ?

Take care :-).

c-da

On 1/8/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

Can you tell us how Osama vs US compares with ULFA vs

India?

Your inferential skills need a lot of work.

At 10:28 PM +0000 1/7/07, umesh sharma wrote:

C-da,

telling a lie one hundred times will NOT make it the

truth. Which planet are you in?

***ULFA or suspected ULFA slaughter by Indian army goons

is a more noble pursuit or at least an efficacious one.

where does Indian army come in the slaughter by ULFA ?

Alos as a US citizen are you saying USA is negotiating

with Osama Bin Laden?

Which universe are you in?

Umesh

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 6:54 PM +0000 1/7/07, umesh sharma wrote:

C-da,

Do you believe in negotiating with terrorists --US

doesn't.

** Really? What planet have you been in Umesh?

ULFA has proved itself to be terrorists

by killing innocents again. Hasn't it? Why equate killing of laborers

by ULFa to killing of ULFA by Indian army?

** OK, I will abandon my sense of reasoning for a moment

and go along with your view that ULFA or suspected ULFA slaughter by

Indian army goons is a more noble pursuit or at least an efficacious

one.

If so, it should have proven beneficial and ended the

carnage by now. It has been a quarter century now , hasn't it? But has

it?

If not, what seems to be the problem? And how do you, a

Harvard trained intellectual licensed to lecture the world, plan to

bring it to an end? I spoke to someone in Assam an hour back and I

hear the killing goes on. I asked how come the army, which is all over

the place, can't stop it? I was told that the army cannot be

everywhere, that they cannot stop what goes on  in the backwoods

of Assam.

Not that I did not know the answer. I was just curious

about how the prevailing

wisdom that Manoj shared earlier has infected the

reasoning ability of otherwise

able people.

If YOU did not know the answer earlier ( can't hold it

against you -- you too being a victim of the desi-mindset affliction);

NOW that you know, what would you propose to these Hindi speaking

victims?

Or to those who will be killed either as ULFAs or

SUSPECTED ULFAs ?

STAY THE COURSE?

And call B'deshis PIGS, the Assamese SAVAGES and  go

offer some Pujas to the gods to make ULFA disappear?

Umesh

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The motive of ULFA killings is to create a vacuum so

that the Bangladeshis can >occupy the professions now being

monopolised by the Biharis etc. This is plain >and simple and

nobody is saying it in as many words.

Let us examine this bit of wisdom, which seems to have its

origins in the hallowed editorial chambers of the

Sentinel:

        *** First

off, regardless of MOTIVES, the killings are horrible

        tragedies,

that none of us can or should condone, support,

        promote or

abet; directly or indirectly, overtly or tacitly.

        *** If indeed

killing of Hindi-speaking laborers/traders/political

        leaders ( they

are NOT all laborers, if newspaper reports are to be

        believed) 

is to create jobs for illegal B'deshi immigrants, like these

        'analysts' tell

us ; should it not raise a red-flag in the minds

        of Assam's

protectors and 'mai-baap' in Delhi?

        *** Has Delhi

NOT heard, from the late 1970s , about Assam's discontent

        with unabated

B'deshi migration to the state and to the region, which

        actually

triggered the ULFA movement, even though it is rooted in

        much more?

        *** If that was

not enough, why have Assam's protectors NOT done

        anything about

it, even at this late date, even after brilliant

        intellects who

have finally seen through the ULFA ploy of turning

        Assam over to

B'desh, point it out in The Sentinel, The Statesman,

        The Telegraph

,The ToI? Never mind the plaintive outpourings of

        assamnetters

and their NRI sympathizers and admirers.

        Is India NOT

worried about losing Assam's wealth to the hordes of

        the lungi

menace and B'Desh? After-all non-Assamese Indians own

        most of Assam ,

don't they? Don't India's strategic planners and

        steel-trap

minded military generals see this huge risk to India's

        'national

security'?

        Are they blind,

are they stupid, are they THAT inept? Are they SOOO

        impotent? Are

they sooo clueless that they cannot connect these

        NOT-subtle

dots, but glaring beacons?

Well? What gives?

Perhaps they indeed are blind, stupid, inept ,clueless and

abjectly impotent to do anything about it. Heavens know we see 

daily examples of that all over the sub-continent, don't we? It is

entirely possible that these morons who supposedly govern India and

'protect' ( heh-heh!) Assam are worse than Keystone Cops.

        *** If so, WHY

can't our brilliant netters see thru that when they wail

        on the internet

like a bunch of cry-babies or go about parroting

        simple-minded

anal-yses by a clueless and careless media ? What is

        their excuse?

Are they too clones of their nincompoop keepers and

        saviors?

The truth, unfortunately, is a whole lot more

complicated.

BUT, even if it were not; EVEN if  parroting of these

simple-minded anal-yses really are what it is all about; would it not

make sense for those who are dismayed by these developments to RAISE

their voices to end the carnage? Carnage not merely of Hindi speakers,

but of ULFA who are Oxomiya youth - our own; of Indian soldiers ( they

too are human, aren't they?) and innocent bystanders -- regardless of

the labels we place so conveniently to rob them of their humanity?

I like to think, that all these fine people whose outrage

erupts only when such bloodshed makes the headlines, are not asleep

the rest of the time.

So WHY do they AID and ABET this quarter century old

carnage, albeit indirectly, by remaining silent or in fact opposing a

negotiated political settlement between the Indian Govt. and ULFA ?

Why don't they urge their keepers and saviors to end it, once and for

all?

I hope our friends will take a moment to reflect on that.

I like to think they are more than able to.

cm

Umesh Sharma

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Be so unselfish that when God writes your destiny; he can be free to

ask: What do you want?

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