Dear Manoj,
Rajen Barua is perplexed at your Hobo Diyok-ism.
Say Loud and clear " I, Mr. Manoj Kumar Das hereby declare that I ,and only I ,am the Secretary of the Assam Association ,Delhi. Any Impostor is hereby warned of dire consequences"
mm
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To: "Barua, Rajen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ASSAMNET <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Assam] FW: Manoj Kumar Das or Madan Das-General Secretary,Assam Association, New
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:24:31 +0530
Hobo diyok..:)
On 2/1/07, Barua, Rajen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Monoj:Did we make a error?Rajenda
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I think Manoj Kumar Das is General Secretary, Assam Association, NewYou have written Mr Madan Das.Please check it.BuljitSend assam mailing list submissions to
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Friends:
According to information received, recently, NETV took surprised video
interviews of the following prominent Assamese individuals residing in
New Delhi and asked questions if they prefer to change the name of Assam
to Asom or oppose the change. Everybody voiced strongly against
changing the name and for keeping the original name Assam.
NETV broadcast the interview widely in Assam.
We thank the individuals for taking part in the interview and supporting
the name Assam.
Mr. Robin kalita, General Manager, Rail Vikas Ngam Ltd and noted
cultural and TV personality of Assam
Dr Nilamoni Sarmah, Additional Medical Superintendent, Ram Manohar Lohia
Hospital
Mr S R Dewri, Trustee Assam Association Cultural and Educational Trust
Dr Hareswar Deka, Chief Medical Officer, CGHS,
Mr Asif Ahmed, Adviser, Luitporia Youth Organisation..
Mr Madan Das, General Secretary, Assam Association, New Delhi
Rajen Barua
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:08:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: umesh sharma
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
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Rajen-da,
without reference to anything you said I say that punishing culptrits (whoever they may be) is good. I squash cockroaches everyday in my kitchen and used to swat mosquitoes in India when they bit me.
Umesh
PS: I just wondered why u raised all these historical issues when discussing a current problem of ULFA. Why not raise the issue of original sin by Adam and Eve - if you feel like it? or of Thou Shalt not kill - Ten Commandments
"Barua, Rajen" wrote:
Umesh:
I may be weak in English, but did not know that I am that weak.
You asked why ULFA was killing.
I showed you how killings are going on in this world from ancient times till now in front of your own eyes and why, and from that I asked you to make your guess why ULFA is killing.
Nowhere did I say any of these these killings are OK.
In fact when you asked back, "so is it ok?', one would presume that you think those other examples of killings are ok.
I never said any of those killings are OK.
I simply said that the world we live in a a 'killing field'.
In fact I am against any killing, I am against this 'killing field'.
I yet donot know if you are against all killings or you think some killings are good like Indian army killing 50000 innocent Nagas or America annihilating two cities.
Rajen-da
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of umesh sharma
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:58 PM
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
Rajen-da,
Unless my English is completely wrong it is YOU who is sayinng that killing is ok.
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
Are you suggesting that the other killings are ok?
Are you a supporter of killing?
Or are you a supporter of killing selectively?
Rajenda
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua ; [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
so is it ok?
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
Umesh:
Your question actually relate to a bigger and age old question, why people kill people, especially innocent people. And it may surprise you, but you actually know the answer. Only thing, you need to think deeply:
Let us take the case of the Mahabharata war which took place long time ago and where thousands of innocent people from all over India were killed.
Reason : The Pandavas wanted just Five villages.
Let us take the case of Germany which killed millions of Jews in the second world war.
Reason: Belief that your own kind is superior and you need to dominate the world with your people.
Let us take the case of USA bombing and annihilating millions of innocent Japanese when they bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and bring them to submission.
Let us take the case of Iraq War where thousands of innocent people are being killed every day.
Reason: USA to control the world key oil center and bring the middle east to their control.
Let us take the case of Al Qaeda killing innocent people.
Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and submit and leave middle east alone.
ULFA killing innocent people.
Reason: You fill up the gap.
The world is a killing field, Umesh.
Rajen Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: [Assam] Why ULFA?
someone asked me over the phone why ULFA killing people.
I had no concrete reply --except that for some reason they want to have a separate nation which they can rule.
>>
Any further light on the issue?
Umesh
PS: other issues which cropped up were Bangladeshi infiltration, migration from other parts of India and lack of development -after Indian independence thanks to cut off of trade routes -by creation of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:46:25 -0600
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Umesh:
I think you are making such a big confusion of our communication by not responding straight, that I think we need to chronicle our sayings.
1) Originally you asked the question, why ULFA is killing people, and also suggested that they were interested to have a separate nation which they want to rule.You also asked for other opinion.
2) In reply I showed the possible reasons why basically people kill people bringing examples from ancient history to modern days killing. I also stated that from these reasons, you may make your own judgment why ULFA is killing.
3) Instead of choosing a reason, you asked me the question, "so is it ok?"
I donot know why you asked me that question. Probably you flotade the question to get a certain type of response. M ay be I put you in a very uncomfortable zone with my examples.
4) I replied that your question implies that other killings cited by me are ok according to you. Otherwise what your question "so it is ok" would mean? I also told that I am against any type of killing, and asked your opinion.
5) Instead of answering straight, you are changing the question 180 degrees and saying that "punishing the culprit is good" (whatever that means). I think you are trying to justify killing if it is for punishing a culprit. This however does not explain why people kill innocent people.
Anyhow, before we confuse the readers, please clarify it that is what you mean. If you say yes, my question would be which of the killings you would say OK. Do you also support ULFA's killing, because as an extension of your logic (killing to punish a culprit is good), ULFA may justify their killing.
Would appreciate if you would answer straight.
Or ask me question if you are in doubt.
Rajen-da
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua ; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
Rajen-da,
without reference to anything you said I say that punishing culptrits (whoever they may be) is good. I squash cockroaches everyday in my kitchen and used to swat mosquitoes in India when they bit me.
Umesh
PS: I just wondered why u raised all these historical issues when discussing a current problem of ULFA. Why not raise the issue of original sin by Adam and Eve - if you feel like it? or of Thou Shalt not kill - Ten Commandments
"Barua, Rajen" wrote:
Umesh:
I may be weak in English, but did not know that I am that weak.
You asked why ULFA was killing.
I showed you how killings are going on in this world from ancient times till now in front of your own eyes and why, and from that I asked you to make your guess why ULFA is killing.
Nowhere did I say any of these these killings are OK.
In fact when you asked back, "so is it ok?', one would presume that you think those other examples of killings are ok.
I never said any of those killings are OK.
I simply said that the world we live in a a 'killing field'.
In fact I am against any killing, I am against this 'killing field'.
I yet donot know if you are against all killings or you think some killings are good like Indian army killing 50000 innocent Nagas or America annihilating two cities.
Rajen-da
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of umesh sharma
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:58 PM
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
Rajen-da,
Unless my English is completely wrong it is YOU who is sayinng that killing is ok.
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
Are you suggesting that the other killings are ok?
Are you a supporter of killing?
Or are you a supporter of killing selectively?
Rajenda
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua ; [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
so is it ok?
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
Umesh:
Your question actually relate to a bigger and age old question, why people kill people, especially innocent people. And it may surprise you, but you actually know the answer. Only thing, you need to think deeply:
Let us take the case of the Mahabharata war which took place long time ago and where thousands of innocent people from all over India were killed.
Reason : The Pandavas wanted just Five villages.
Let us take the case of Germany which killed millions of Jews in the second world war.
Reason: Belief that your own kind is superior and you need to dominate the world with your people.
Let us take the case of USA bombing and annihilating millions of innocent Japanese when they bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and bring them to submission.
Let us take the case of Iraq War where thousands of innocent people are being killed every day.
Reason: USA to control the world key oil center and bring the middle east to their control.
Let us take the case of Al Qaeda killing innocent people.
Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and submit and leave middle east alone.
ULFA killing innocent people.
Reason: You fill up the gap.
The world is a killing field, Umesh.
Rajen Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: [Assam] Why ULFA?
someone asked me over the phone why ULFA killing people.
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