>You see it did not answer the question about Daisy the cow and her
mistake.
If "Cows eat grass and bushes. Daisy is a cow so it ate the bush" is not
the right answer, what then is the right answer? I thought "Cows eat
grass and bushes. Daisy is a cow so it ate the bush" is the right
answer.
Why cant we answer straight to the original question ?
Rajenda
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of umesh sharma
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:36 PM
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
In the long term we are all dead --as John Maynard Keynes the celebrated
British economist once said. Try short term focus.
You misunderstood the question and gave a wrong (philosophical) answer
which went at a tangent.
Analogy to our Q & A:
Ques; Why did Daisy the cow eat the neighbor's rose bush? Why did it
happen?
Answer: Cows eat grass and bushes. Daisy is a cow so it ate the bush.
There are different types of cows. All eat grass and plants. Holstein
cows give 10 gallons of milk per day. Jersey cows give 12 gallons of
milk. Elephants eat a lot of plant matter as well.
You see it did not answer the question about Daisy the cow and her
mistake.
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:
Take 25 years. These are lifetime questions.
Nobody is in hurry.
Rajenda
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sharma
To: Rajen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & Ajanta Barua ;
[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
Rajen-da,
Unlike last year now I am working full time so do not the time to go
into all the nuances of what everyone writes -incl pre-historic examples
etc . I may get more time on weekend (Sunday) so will reply then.
Have agreat day.
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:
I think you are making such a big confusion of our communication by not
responding straight, that I think we need to chronicle our sayings.
1) Originally you asked the question, why ULFA is killing people, and
also suggested that they were interested to have a separate nation which
they want to rule.You also asked for other opinion.
2) In reply I showed the possible reasons why basically people kill
people bringing examples from ancient history to modern days killing. I
also stated that from these reasons, you may make your own judgment why
ULFA is killing.
3) Instead of choosing a reason, you asked me the question, "so is it
ok?"
I donot know why you asked me that question. Probably you flotade the
question to get a certain type of response. M ay be I put you in a very
uncomfortable zone with my examples.
4) I replied that your question implies that other killings cited by me
are ok according to you. Otherwise what your question "so it is ok"
would mean? I also told that I am against any type of killing, and asked
your opinion.
5) Instead of answering straight, you are changing the question 180
degrees and saying that "punishing the culprit is good" (whatever that
means). I think you are trying to justify killing if it is for punishing
a culprit. This however does not explain why people kill innocent
people.
Anyhow, before we confuse the readers, please clarify it that is what
you mean. If you say yes, my question would be which of the killings you
would say OK. Do you also support ULFA's killing, because as an
extension of your logic (killing to punish a culprit is good), ULFA may
justify their killing.
Would appreciate if you would answer straight.
Or ask me question if you are in doubt.
Rajen-da
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Rajen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & Ajanta Barua ;
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
Rajen-da,
without reference to anything you said I say that punishing culptrits
(whoever they may be) is good. I squash cockroaches everyday in my
kitchen and used to swat mosquitoes in India when they bit me.
Umesh
PS: I just wondered why u raised all these historical issues when
discussing a current problem of ULFA. Why not raise the issue of
original sin by Adam and Eve - if you feel like it? or of Thou Shalt not
kill - Ten Commandments
"Barua, Rajen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:
I may be weak in English, but did not know that I am that weak.
You asked why ULFA was killing.
I showed you how killings are going on in this world from ancient times
till now in front of your own eyes and why, and from that I asked you to
make your guess why ULFA is killing.
Nowhere did I say any of these these killings are OK.
In fact when you asked back, "so is it ok?', one would presume that you
think those other examples of killings are ok.
I never said any of those killings are OK.
I simply said that the world we live in a a 'killing field'.
In fact I am against any killing, I am against this 'killing field'.
I yet donot know if you are against all killings or you think some
killings are good like Indian army killing 50000 innocent Nagas or
America annihilating two cities.
Rajen-da
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of umesh sharma
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:58 PM
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
Rajen-da,
Unless my English is completely wrong it is YOU who is sayinng that
killing is ok.
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you suggesting that the other killings are ok?
Are you a supporter of killing?
Or are you a supporter of killing selectively?
Rajenda
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Rajen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & Ajanta Barua ;
[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?
so is it ok?
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:
Your question actually relate to a bigger and age old question, why
people kill people, especially innocent people. And it may surprise you,
but you actually know the answer. Only thing, you need to think deeply:
Let us take the case of the Mahabharata war which took place long time
ago and where thousands of innocent people from all over India were
killed.
Reason : The Pandavas wanted just Five villages.
Let us take the case of Germany which killed millions of Jews in the
second world war.
Reason: Belief that your own kind is superior and you need to dominate
the world with your people.
Let us take the case of USA bombing and annihilating millions of
innocent Japanese when they bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and bring them to submission.
Let us take the case of Iraq War where thousands of innocent people are
being killed every day.
Reason: USA to control the world key oil center and bring the middle
east to their control.
Let us take the case of Al Qaeda killing innocent people.
Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and submit and leave middle east
alone.
ULFA killing innocent people.
Reason: You fill up the gap.
The world is a killing field, Umesh.
Rajen Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: [Assam] Why ULFA?
someone asked me over the phone why ULFA killing people.
I had no concrete reply --except that for some reason they want to have
a separate nation which they can rule.
>>
Any further light on the issue?
Umesh
PS: other issues which cropped up were Bangladeshi infiltration,
migration from other parts of India and lack of development -after
Indian independence thanks to cut off of trade routes -by creation of
East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)
Umesh Sharma
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