**** The quality of a newspaper is to be judged from the quality of the 
articles, opinions and news contained there-in, which are easily discernable by 
people with ordinary amount of intelligence.

---------------

Really? And does that point only to such insufferable know-alls such as 
yourself?

**** No I did not. And I also did not know that she once cheated on her high 
school test, that she drinks alcohol and smokes 'bhang', that she wears western 
clothes and does not wear a 'bindi', that she reads books banned in India, that 
she has Pakistani friends, that she does not go to temples, that she is a 
vegan, that she was paid to speak in a New York conference known to espouse 
liberal causes and other such high-crimes and misdemeanors.

----------------

I too have Pakistani friends. But that does not mean I am not a good citizen of 
my country. People like AR only have nuisance value and they provide good 
entertaintment in the Indian media to such "ordinary" people like us who crave 
for a laugh once a while.

Ofcourse, since your objective is specific, your selective pickings from 
eccectricities appearing in desi rags doesnt surprise me.

BTW, Arundhati is "Suzzana" Arundhati Roy - Bengali father and Keralite 
Christian mother...so I wouldnt be surprised if she chose not to wear a bindi 
or go to a temple. Anyway, her personal religious beliefs dont bother me and 
dont have any relation to this context....just like the price of Cha in Cha-ina.

**** Uh-huh! I know that. I also know of other similar theories and beliefs 
about everything imaginable under the sun that Indians are mired in, including 
its world class brain-trust.

But again, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China, or for 
that matter with what AR writes in the article in question?

----------------------
I didnt realise the similarity of Dec-13 to Sep-11 and the conspiracy theories 
around it would escape someone of extraordinary intellect such as you :-)






----- Original Message ----
From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:18:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] From the AT


>Well researched indeed! - Arent they cut pastes from various desi "rags" such 
>>as Outlook India.


*** The quality of a newspaper is to be judged from the quality of the 
articles, opinions and news contained there-in, which are easily discernable by 
people with ordinary amount of intelligence.


How does Outlook India fare on that, compared to say, the English mouthpieces 
from Assam or such jewels of the desi media as The Statesman, The Telegraph, 
The Indian Express ? I'll let netters decide that for themselves.


>Did you know that Arundhati was once caught peddling drugs in Goa with a 
>Firang >boyfriend.


*** No I did not. And I also did not know that she once cheated on her high 
school test, that she drinks alcohol and smokes 'bhang', that she wears western 
clothes and does not wear a 'bindi', that she reads books banned in India, that 
she has Pakistani friends, that she does not go to temples, that she is a 
vegan, that she was paid to speak in a New York conference known to espouse 
liberal causes and other such high-crimes and misdemeanors.


But what does that have to do with the quality of what she wrote in this 
article and the substantiation for the opinions she expressed, the 
substantiation being documentation in the public record and thus very easily 
verifiable and /or challenged? Have anyone been able to rebut anything she put 
forth in this piece?
>Dont trust junkie "activists".


*** Words of the wise no doubt. But it really amounts to bad mouthing someone 
when one cannot rebut or refute what gives one heart-burn. Not something a 
mature and intelligent person would indulge in.


>Also remember how she melodramatically asked 13 questions on this issue - like 
>>as if she would have had 14 questions if the attack was on the 14th of Dec.


*** Is this the coup-de-grace to finally put to rest AR's arguments?


>There is also a video on the net which says that Sep 11 is actually the 
>>handiwork of the CIA, FBI etc...another one also on man's first moon landing 
>>and it says it was a hoax played on us people :-)


*** Uh-huh! I know that. I also know of other similar theories and beliefs 
about everything imaginable under the sun that Indians are mired in, including 
its world class brain-trust.


But again, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China, or for 
that matter with what AR writes in the article in question?




cm




At 2:15 AM -0800 2/23/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
Well researched indeed! - Arent they cut pastes from various desi "rags" such 
as Outlook India.
 
Did you know that Arundhati was once caught peddling drugs in Goa with a Firang 
boyfriend. I remember reading that in Telegraph in a biography on her published 
after she won the Booker prize.
 
Dont trust junkie "activists".
 
Also remember how she melodramatically asked 13 questions on this issue - like 
as if she would have had 14 questions if the attack was on the 14th of Dec.
 
There is also a video on the net which says that Sep 11 is actually the 
handiwork of the CIA, FBI etc...another one also on man's first moon landing 
and it says it was a hoax played on us people :-)
 
 
Rgds,
Sandip

----- Original Message ----
From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:53:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] From the AT

Ram:


You don't have to take my word for it. But if you go do your homework, I am 
sure  you will see the travesty .


I learned only because I read Arundhati Roy's well researched and documented 
article. I think I posted it in Assam Net. She was challenged by one Chandan 
Das, a journalist I think, about her pointing fingers to the need for a trigger
to launch a war against Pakistan. But she had her homework done thoroughly and 
proved her point clearly from the published utterances by both ABV and another 
big name in the NDA govt. You will find it all in the archives of Outlook India.


c-da


















At 11:44 AM -0600 2/20/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

C'da,

 

I am sure what you say is correct (about Afzal). From what little I read about 
the case in the media, I came out with the impression that he was deep into it.

 

>more than likely, were created by Indian spooks at the behest of the highest 
>echelons of >government in a scheme to provide the excuse for a war with 
>Pakistan that went awry. They >are either six-feet under or are safely stowed 
>away by the same keepers of the Justice

 

I, obviously, did not realize the extent to which the GOI and its spooks would 
go to orchestrate such a sinister plot. :)

 

But then, I would have to go back and do my home work (and revisit this topic)

 

--Ram

 



 

On 2/20/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Are you saying, Afzal is innocent?


 

*** That is a misleading question. INNOCENT of WHAT?


 

A capital crime? Not to anyone who has an ordinary amount of reasoning ability 
and is willing to look at the public record of the trials and the cooked 
evidence. The world knows he was framed by Indian justice system. Even the SC's 
own words sending him to the gallows are damning. Why do you think they haven't 
done a Saddam on him yet? It is not the fear of Kashmiris rising in outrage, 
but of world opinion.


 

Yes, Afzal did play a small role in the conspiracy. But it does not amount to a 
capital crime. Circumstantial evidence abounds to indicate that the real 
culprits, more than likely, were created by Indian spooks at the behest of the 
highest echelons of government in a scheme to provide the excuse for a war with 
Pakistan that went awry. They are either six-feet under or are safely stowed 
away by the same keepers of the Justice.


 


 


 


 


 


 

At 9:28 AM -0600 2/20/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

Wasn't Afzal the guy who attacked the Parliament (or masterminded it) and 
killed a number of guards?

 

I have not followed the case closely, but Afzal received the best justice that 
Indian conditions allow, and furthemore, had it been some other (low profile) 
person, Afzal would have already been hung - what with the righteous protests 
and evn Pakistan wanting the GOI to let Afzak go free.

 

Are you saying, Afzal is innocent?

 

--Ram

 

On 2/20/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

No, I am overwhelmed by the righteous assurances of delivering JUSTICE.


 

Just ask Mohammed Afzal, sentenced to hang in the Parliament Shooting case.

 


 


 


 


 


 

At 8:43 AM -0600 2/20/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

I hope we are not confusing the PM (or the GOI) with the LeT (who supposedly 
blew up the train).

 

--Ram

 

On 2/20/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

India will ensure punishment of guilty: PM
 Prime Minister Manmohan Singh today assured Pakistan that India was committed 
to doing everything possible to ensure that perpetrators of the "heinous" 
terrorist act on Samjhauta Express were punished, reports


 


 


 

*** I am overwhelmed!


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