perhaps C-da should go back to India and start a non-violent movement like
Gandhi --rather than sitting outside and conjecturing. Go and do it --if you
can!!! If thats what you think is right. Do it!!! Best wishes.
Umesh
Nayanjyoti Medhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
rajen da,
can my suggestions be incorporated? do tell me because that
would help in preparation of the future deliberations as regards that topic.
regards
nayan
On 2/24/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chandan:
Theser are not meant for individual reply and spend time in side arguments but
to help ypu prepare the final Manin Course and address.
Thanks
Rajen
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan Mahanta
To: Barua, Rajen ; [email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] My Take on Why I*********** - III, Trophy or Tool?
R:
>I don't see any serious debate for or against independence from any side so
far. ZERO, ZIPPO.
*** That is because of your and Dilip's admonition to all those chomping at
the bit to come out swinging , to hold their horses, till I am done saying my
piece.
>I would also hope that you not side tract the issue and would not present
more appetizers but will go to >the full course.
*** I will certainly consider that :-).
>that all the Assamese share your views equally.
*** WOW! Come on Rajen. I know I have a big head, but NOT that big :-).
Actually I made that clear at the outset that these are MY views. And, trust
me, I don't speak for anybody else: Not the Oxomiya Jaati, not the whole or
even part of Assam, Not ULFA, not NRAs.
But that is not to suggest there may not be anybody who could be expected to
find common cause with MY views.
>In my opinion, Briefly your full course essay should have the following
contents. 1) Introduction 2) What is the problem? 3) What reforms we need?.
4) Why Independence needed for these reforms? 5) How this Independence can be
achieved.? 6) What is needed for success.? >7) What is the plan?
*** Those are good points.
But I would like to point out a couple of things:
Those who grew up in rural Assam and had some morbid curiosities,
perhaps noticed that when the common vultures descend on
carrion, they don't dig into the feast the moment they land. There
is a hierarchical order in the animal kingdom -- the grunt vultures
must
wait for the Roja Xogun/s ( literally the royal vultures -- with their
distinctive red appendages around the eyes and the throat--
also called turkey vulture/s) to alight and take the first bites,
usually at the eyes of the carcass.
Or a more contemporary and genteel example would be the feudal
fiefdom
of the HC Judges in India, where an aggrieved grunt-justice must
obtain His Lordship's say-so, before he or she can lodge a
public complaint of wrong-doing.
In assamnet we don't have such hierarchies. Netters are free to state
their own positions, as they see fit, in any order they wish, at any
time. They don't need to wait for anybody's blessing.
So, DO :-).
>Each of these topic can be really short and may be just one paragraph,
*** I would leave that to the discretion of the writer. It is her time and
his dime :-).
>For any statement, there should be a back up support in your pocket so that
you may counter any >questions from the doubters.
*** That of course would be elementary. I for one, never assert something
that I cannot provide a halfway believable explanation for.
>Like when you say, (After the 'andwlon', when AGP came to power, it did not
realize that unless it radically >reformed the system they would fall victim to
its built-in recipe for failure, of falling into the 'jeyei lonkaloi jai, xeyei
>raabon hoy' trap.) here people like me would question the phrase in bold,
because you are making >statement on Oxom Andwlon which you did not participate
and may not have any clue other than your >impression from remote.
*** I or you and many in our shoes have long been gone for Assam. If MY
observation is incorrect, or clueless, how would yours be any different, using
the same logic as you use here?
The fact is that, we can observe things critically and draw intelligent
conclusions. My absence from Assam, or yours, does not, in any way, shape or
form, preclude us from observing, analyzing and drawing conclusions.
That simple.
c
At 12:18 PM -0500 2/23/07, Barua, Rajen wrote:
>All the justifications for i**********e , thus far presented and debated by
proponents and opponents alike have been entirely on historical, cultural,
ethnic and >natural right components. I don't see any serious debate for
or against independence from any side so far. ZERO, ZIPPO. But I would hold
any response and rather will wait for your full course. I would also hope that
you not side tract the issue and would not present more appetizers but will go
to the full course. BTW your full course seems to have missed a big
'introduction' which should come before 'why independence', an introduction'
which probably you are taking it for granted that all the Assamese share your
views equally. But that question can wait to see your full course. In my
opinion, Briefly your full course essay should have the following contents. 1)
Introduction 2) What is the problem? 3) What reforms we need?. 4) Why
Independence needed for these reforms? 5) How this
Independence can be achieved.? 6) What is needed for success.? 7) What is
the plan? Each of these topic can be really short and may be just one
paragraph, but each should be addressed. For any statement, there should be a
back up support in your pocket so that you may counter any questions from the
doubters. Like when you say, ( After the 'andwlon', when AGP came to power, it
did not realize that unless it radically reformed the system they would fall
victim to its built-in recipe for failure, of falling into the 'jeyei lonkaloi
jai, xeyei raabon hoy' trap.) here people like me would question the phrase in
bold, because you are making statement on Oxom Andwlon which you did not
participate and may not have any clue other than your impression from remote.
Without a full sized report addressing all the issues, the netters may again
get excited to be busy in arguments. This is just to help you so that you
donot throw any more appetizers with ifs and but and we
donot get into unnecessary arguments but may go to the meat. Thanks Rajen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chan Mahanta
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Assam] My Take on Why I*********** - III, Trophy or Tool?
My apologies for not getting to the part most of my friends opposed to my
views must be waiting for - Assam's Own Governmental System".
However it is important to set the stage for the main course. So, here I deal
with a very important question about this whole concept of i**********e or
s********y :-): What is it? Bangalis might ask, Eta ki? Khai-na kaane' pore' (
what is it? Do you eat it or wear on your ear?).
Is i**********e a trophy or is it a tool?
The answer is that it is both.
And readers might ask--SO?
The reason I decided to raise this question first and answer it is because of
the fact that, thus far, the discourse about Assam's i**********e has been
focused only on the TROPHY part. Neither the proponents of independence -- the
ULFA, its supporters and sympathizers, nor its detractors, have dealt with the
really important component; that it is an essential TOOL, indispensable means
to certain ends.
All the justifications for i**********e , thus far presented and debated by
proponents and opponents alike have been entirely on historical, cultural,
ethnic and natural right components. Not that they are not relevant or
important. They ARE. For most struggles for independence in recent human
history have been fought exactly on these issues.
The TROPHY justifications, of necessity, are intangible and could be
subjective at times and thus become targets of detractors from the trite to the
toxic.
But in case of Assam, I would submit, the TOOL component, the indispensable
means to certain ends is even more important. It is essential to reform Assam's
governance to suit Assam's needs and which is impossible under India's colonial
and medieval system. The fact of the dysfunction of the Indian system needs no
proving. It is there for all to see and experience.
After the 'andwlon', when AGP came to power, it did not realize that unless
it radically reformed the system they would fall victim to its built-in recipe
for failure, of falling into the 'jeyei lonkaloi jai, xeyei raabon hoy' trap.
The key here then is to demonstrate HOW to go about doing it.
Next "My Take on Why I********* - IV, Assam's Own Governmental System"
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