Hi Umesh:
Hope things are going well for you.
Why do you think Menaka Gandhi should be taken to task, and by who?
What are her crimes? And if it cannot be done, then what?
I appreciated Himendra Kwaiti saying with the courage of his
convictions what he knows to be the truth about Nagas purportedly
indulging in what was insinuated by Dr. Sashank. It was a slander, no
doubt created and perpetuated by the caste-Oxomiyas. I don't mean
here the tradition of eating dog-meat. Many people around the world
do that. Remember many even eat COWS? Imagine someone eating their
'mothers'?
But I fail to see why Menaka Gandhi needs to be taken to task.
Ignorance can be easily eradicated by educating . If our very own
Sashank Daktor would have cared to do a little home-work, before he
spread the rumor, with emphasis ( IT IS A TRUE STORY, not a false one
mind you), and informed MG's group that it is an 'otironjon',
exaggerated myth, or if he had found evidence to support the
slanderous
rumor, affirming it and informing them how prevalent it is or was;
that would have helped kill the ignorant rumor as it seems to be or
put things in perspective.
If Menaka Gandhi is running a an effort to eradicating cruelty to
animals, that should be supported.
I know being a Nehru dynasty 'bohu' she is a public enemy to
Hinduttwa forces. But that would be a mindless reaction, wouldn't it?
As a Life-Member and Patron of "Assam Association of Delhi", I
propose action in the following sequence:
(1) Assam Association of Delhi should take leadership in
confronting the irresponsible, anti-national and divisive lies of
Sushri Maneka Gandhi
(2) Before taking any action, Sushri Maneka Gandhi should be
notified to explain, within 15 days, about the truth of the report.
(3) On expiry of 15 days, a PIL case should be filed on charges of
anti-India activities against Sushri Maneka Gandhi and India TV
under the provisions of the Constitution of India.
(4) One thousand effigies of Maneka Gandhi should be burned all
over Assam within a month.
(5) Demands should be made to the Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan
Singh to condemn Maneka Gandhi.
(6) Demand should be made to BJP to expel Maneka Gandhi from BJP,
failing which, rallies should the held all over Assam and Delhi
against BJP leadership.
*** I find the above prescriptions hilarious, Manoj's assurances ,
replete with gratitude for the advices not-withstanding. Can't wait
to see Manoj Das sending out tenders for Menaka Gandhi effigies and
taking out permits from Delhi Fire Protection District to burn them,
with Himendra Kwaiti leading the parade on a Roth wielding a 'jwr' (
torch) lit with ghee, being pulled by a bunch of gorus ( bulls) .
Would hate to see you in the line of the roth-pullers Umesh, or any
kharkhowa with a working brain.
It is a high time Assam should once again take a strong stand.
*** That I can ditto on. But NOT on this cause and not in this way.
This is a great way to look utterly RIDICULOUS and clueless to the
core.
c-da
At 5:59 PM +0100 5/23/07, umesh sharma wrote:
Good suggestion by Himenda. Menaka Gandhi must be taken to task .
Umesh
Manoj Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Himendrada, we'll do our bit.
BTW Sashanka is VET working in NGO sector at Delhi.
-manoj
On 5/21/07, Himendra Thakur
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Manoj,
During my 4 year stay in Nagaland, I became close to my Naga
friends, and I came to know that "kukur-pitha" was a lie --- it
continues to be a lie today.
It is a lie similar to what you see in the movie "INDIANA JONES" by
George Lucas where Indians were shown as people who eat live snakes.
From time immemorial, people hurl ethnic slurs to demean others and
glorify the self. India is full of this kind of ethnic slurs. These
are the root of India's disunity and weakness. Very often, movies
were used to spread ethnic insults. I remember a movie (by a Marathi
producer) CHACHA CHOUDHARY that was directed against Gujarati and
South Indians. An exception was Uday Shankar's KALPANA where he
protested against stereotyping people. Mahatma Gandhi was always
against any ethnic slur. His article "Lovely Assam" will shine like
a gem forever.
Our goal is to build a strong India for which we need complete
extirpation of ethnic smearing. If the report is true, the interview
at India TV by Sushri Maneka Gandhi adds up to betrayal of India.
Her irresponsibility is paramount because she is a Member of
Parliament, a member of BJP and a prominent national leader.
This is a very serious matter. Because of their hereditary features,
people from Assam are already facing many problems in Delhi where
they are identified with derogatory remarks such as "chepta", etc.
For the sake of future generations of the Assamese, the slur hurled
by Sushri Maneka Gandhi must be nipped at the bud. This is as
serious as the "Grouping" that was stopped by Gopinath Bordoloi in
1946, earning an international reputation of stubbornness.
As a Life-Member and Patron of "Assam Association of Delhi", I
propose action in the following sequence:
(1) Assam Association of Delhi should take leadership in
confronting the irresponsible, anti-national and divisive lies of
Sushri Maneka Gandhi
(2) Before taking any action, Sushri Maneka Gandhi should be
notified to explain, within 15 days, about the truth of the report.
(3) On expiry of 15 days, a PIL case should be filed on charges of
anti-India activities against Sushri Maneka Gandhi and India TV
under the provisions of the Constitution of India.
(4) One thousand effigies of Maneka Gandhi should be burned all
over Assam within a month.
(5) Demands should be made to the Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan
Singh to condemn Maneka Gandhi.
(6) Demand should be made to BJP to expel Maneka Gandhi from BJP,
failing which, rallies should the held all over Assam and Delhi
against BJP leadership.
It is a high time Assam should once again take a strong stand.
Please let me know your opinion.
I have facts about the lack of credibility of Sushri Maneka Gandhi,
which I'll send to you after the 15 day notice mentioned above.
With the best wishes,
Himendra
PS: For some reason not known to me, my membership at assamnet has
been cancelled. Please post my letter whichever way you think the
best.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Manoj Das
To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Dr. Sashanka ;
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Ram Sarangapani ;
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>NorthEastIndia ;
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
; <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] IN ASSAM DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE KILLED FOR THEIR
SKIN AND MEAT
It's 'kukur pitha'. But only eaten in Nagaland. Himendrada, with
long years of service in Nagaland will be able to through some light
and put the record straight.
On 5/20/07, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ram,
Let us not be coy about this ancient cultural trait of our people
and let the good doctor know about his query, without doubt a truly
altruistic and generous gesture to bring a little respite to the
sufferings of our canine comrades.
Dr. Sashanka, as you know, we are ashamed of our ancient pursuit
of this delectable culinary gem. That is why my esteemed colleague
Ram is beating around the bush, not telling you like it is. The
truth, doctor, is that it is as Assamese a custom as Bihu dancing,
til-pitha khwa ( eating sesame and juggery stuffed rice flour
cakes), sunga-saul khowa ( rice cooked in green bamboo tubes over an
open fire), eating 'bwnda-kesu-bhaji' ( deep-fried giant earthworms,
each 9" to a foot long" -- an ancient source of high quality
protein, about 95% of its body mass--compare that to about 15% beef
being protein), juit-pwra xaamuk ( barbequed snails--another high
quality protein source), fermented fish curry ( small fish buried in
wet ground, wrapped in banana leaves and generously spiced up
with'bih-jolokiya'--literally poison pepper, the world's hottest
pepper and blackish clay dug up from water buffalo wallows in
flooded rice paddies, usually shaded by bamboo groves). Those are
only some of our unique culinary heritage.
Anyway, to make a long story short, this delectable doggie treat is
eaten all over Assam, in poor houses and rich, modern Assamese
families as well as forest dwelling savages, who only wear slivers
of dried banana leaves to cover their shame, and that too only under
the most piercing gaze of outsiders.
You will do a great service to civilizing our people left behind by
the times, if you visit Assam, and write an expose'. I hope you will
let Menoka Aideu ( Lady Menaka) and her animal rights group know all
about this sordid practice, with a request to bring it to the notice
of the civilzed world. And most of all , your service will be
remembered by dog-loving Indians whose legacy goes back to
Yudhisthir whose companion never parted company even when crossing
the river Boitorini, deep down in the nether-world.
With the best of wishes, I remain a despondent Assamese:
Chandan Mahanta USA
---- Ram Sarangapani <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hehehe!
At one time, atleast , this "dish was was (popularly) called 'kukur pitha'
and we were told it does happen in certain places. While it is possible for
Menaka Gandhi to say something like this, I think, this kind of story still
has legs is because of its strangeness.
Another thing to think about is also about the Assam in those days was a
larger, bigger Assam.
To answer your question, 'yes', I would say most older netters at least
thought it happened is a certain place. PC (and lack of any
proof) prevents us from assigning this practice to a particular place.
--Ram
On 5/20/07, Dr. Sashanka <
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any idea where exactly the following cruelty happens in
> ASSAM???
>
> *"IN ASSAM DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE KILLED FOR THEIR SKIN AND MEAT.(A TRUE
> STATEMENT).THEY ARE KEPT HUNGRY FOR 5 DAYS THEN ON THE SIXTH DAY FEED ALOT
> OF RICE AND DAL AND AS SOON AS THE INNOCENT ANIMAL FINISHES THE MEAL
> ,BECAUSE HE'S HUNGRY FOR 5 DAYS,IN A ROW,**
> THE BUTCHER TEARS OPEN THE STOMACH OF THE DOG,WHILE THE DOG BEING FULLY
> ALIVE,THEN ITS KILLED AND EATEN AND ITS SKIN GIVEN FOR LEATHER
<http://goods.it/>GOODS.IT<<http://goods.it/>http://goods.it/>HAPPENS
DAILY OVER THERE,(AS SAID BY
> MS.MANEKA GANDHI,A WELL KNOWN ANIMAL RIGHTS ATIVIST,ON AN INTERVIEW,WITH
> INDIA T.V.)"*
> * *
> The link where I found this
>
>
<http://www.petadishoom.com/boards/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1706ឹ>http://www.petadishoom.com/boards/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1706ឹ
>
> Its horrible if really happens in ASSAM and if not then is this a right
> message to the world??????????
>
> Sashanka
>
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