At 7:43 AM -0600 6/2/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>Can there be a better examples for others to emulate?
Yes, C'da.. sometimes it seems it does, doesn't it?
*** 'Sometimes' Ram? Would you like me to rattle off the number of
times the Indian military and the police have been shooting other
Indians down like animals just in the past month?
And why do you think these Indians have been taking to the streets,
knowing full well that they just in might be shot down by their own
-- in Gandhi's India?
Take a WILD guess and tell us. I will refrain from planting any ideas
in your mind, since that will be poison. So why don't YOU tell us, in
your own words, from your own informed analyses ?
**** ULFA was a RESULT of this uniquely Indian governmental trait:
Ignore and stonewall people's concerns and as the disaffections grow
into 'bondhos' and on to 'andwlons', shoot them down like animals (
too many to round up and give them a trial, decide guilt and
punish--like a democratic state is beholden to do) . Since Indian
life is cheap, better to get rid of a few by killing them. Helps
stem the population growth. That much better if they are mere slant
eyed 'gooks', or 'tribals', ad nauseum ( just provide a nice label to
devalue their humanity). And when it leads to insurgencies and fights
for freedom, much easier to deal with: Now the military could be let
loose, armed with AFSPA etc., on grounds of national security. How
bow better to keep those millions employed?
Is the trend hard to spot?
*** Tell me Ram, with a straight face, that the ULFA movement did NOT
bring any good to Assam!
And I will show you a thing or two :-)! We will be all ears.
And remember, C'da (you heard it here first) :) - IMHO this window
for negotiations is closing in really >fast.
*** I am sure ULFA is shaking in its boots at your warning Ram :-).
c-da
But, look at the ULFA. They have been violent for the last .. what 27 years?
What has it got them or what has it got its victims? What has Assam
got in return?
Without talking about the victims (not diminishing their plight
here), thanks to the ULFA, Assam today is known for
ULFA, Viollence, bandhs etc first.
The state (right or wrong) has to constantly fight this image off to
others and look for ways to tell people its "safe" to visit and
invest in Assam.
A spate of bombings in Guwahati, killing innocent people has managed
to keep the local people in fear, but "kill" any immediate chance
for investments in the state. That is great going for ULFA , which
of course, has Assam intesests in its heart!
And so, the ULFA example is probably the worst example for any group
to emulate.
Why? Because, even in India, with all the corruption, the political
mileage that the powers to be may get, what they cannot give up or
give in to is something that is "the Impossible".
So, in the ULFA case, the impossible is the word sovereignty.
Take that OFF the table, then maybe even the ULFA violence may still
have some positive results. But keep that word in and don't budge,
India or any political administration in India will never be able to
give in.
And remember, C'da (you heard it here first) :) - IMHO this window
for negotiations is closing in really fast. India is a country with
huge resources, and often with a lot of patience. The tide seems to
have turned in Assam, it won't be long for New Delhi to see an
opening.
--Ram
On 6/2/07, Chan Mahanta
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NOW they are talking!
Can there be a better examples for others to emulate?
cm
Raje, Gujjars hold fourth round of talks
2 Jun, 2007 l 1727 hrs ISTlIANS
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JAIPUR: Amid comparative calm in Rajasthan after four days, Chief
Minister Vasundhara Raje and Gujjar leaders met on Saturday
afternoon for the fourth round of talks over the latter's demand for
tribal status that has sparked widespread violence.
At the talks, held at the chief ministers' residence, Vasundhara
Raje led the government team of ministers and officials while the
Gujjar community was represented by over 10 leaders.
Talks started on a positive note, said official sources, adding that
there was a hope of ending the crisis soon.
As all eyes were fixed on the outcome of the talks, Rajasthan
remained calm except for reports of burning of a police post in Tonk
district.
The trouble started Tuesday when a road blockade announced by the
Gujjars to press for their demand for Scheduled Tribe status took a
violent turn during which 14 people were killed in clashes between
agitators and police.
"No major incidence of violence was reported from any part of the
state since Friday evening, after four days of trouble in which some
25 people were killed in police firing and group clashes," a senior
police official said.
"We are hopeful of a positive outcome from the final round of talks
with the chief minister," Gujjar leader Roop Singh said before going
for parleys.
"This would be the final round of talks. If nothing comes out of
this, the consequences will be the sole responsibility of the
government," he added.
The previous round of talks on Friday night between the government
and the representatives of the Gujjar Sangharsh Committee, the body
spearheading the community's campaign, ended inconclusively.
An ugly caste conflict looms large in Rajasthan with Gujjars and
Meenas clashing over the quota pie given to Scheduled Tribes. The
Meena community is the dominant Scheduled Tribe community in the
state.
On Friday, five people were killed and 20 injured in clashes between
the two groups in Rajasthan's Dausa and Karauli districts, taking
the death toll to 25 since the Gujjar fury erupted May 29, officials
said.
The trouble started Friday when the Meenas tried to remove
roadblocks put up by the Gujjars in Dausa. Intervention by the
police and army averted further clashes between the two communities.
The Gujjar movement demanding tribal status, which they feel will
improve their economic status, has paralysed rail and road traffic
in many parts of Rajasthan.
Thousands have been stranded at railway stations and bus depots as
the Gujjars continue to block highways leading to Agra, New Delhi
and Madhya Pradesh.
But the government said the Jaipur-Delhi highway had been cleared
but people are not willing to take the highway. The railways plan to
run a few trains on the Bharatpur and Jaipur sectors on Saturday.
The Rajasthan administration has also decided to evacuate over 5,000
pilgrims stranded in Mehendipur, on the Jaipur-Agra highway, with
the help of the Army.
"We are taking steps to clear the traffic jams on various highways.
We have also started running some buses on the Jaipur-Delhi route,"
Rajasthan Transport Minister Younis Khan said.
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