C-da,
   
  does anyone care about learning or education - who cares if an IIT engineer 
cannot recall the Pythagorean theorem or Stanford graduate makes spelling 
mistakes --ofcourse you don't care since as per your definition these skills 
are NOT part of education.
   
  Tom Sawyer style of "adventurous learning (as per David Cohen) is of limited 
use in today's world of "Credentialism" (of emphasis on degrees and Diplomas). 
   
  Do you think 2nd grade pass Benjamin Franklim could have survivded and risen 
to his level today?
   
  Umesh
PS: EVen Vivekanand gained Western appreciation because he had got a bachelor's 
degree from India's topmost College -and spoke fluent English in 1893
  
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        Funny thing Umesh, is that you are proving some of  SV's points in ways 
that I could not have :-).
  

  See , Umesh, an ability to regurgitate words of wisdom, or recite facts and 
figures does not constitute education or learning, just like acquiring of 
high-faluting degrees from pedigreed institutions or otherwise.
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 10:06 AM -0700 6/11/07, umesh sharma wrote:
        http://www.storytellingmonk.org/ref/quotes/educ.htm
     Education, education, education alone! Traveling through many cities of 
Europe and observing in them the comforts and education of even the poor 
people, there was brought to my mind the state of our own poor people, and I 
used to shed tears. What made the difference? Education was the answer I got. 
Through education comes faith in one's self, and through faith in one's own 
self the inherent Brahman is waking up in them, while the Brahman in us is 
gradually becoming dormant.     
---------------------------------------------------------  
Education is not the amount of information that is put in your brain and runs 
riot there undigested all your life. We must have life-building, man-making, 
character-making and assimilation of ideas. If education is identical with 
libraries are the greatest sages in the world and encyclopedias are rishis 
(sages).     -------------------------     We must have a hold on the spiritual 
and secular education of the nation. Do you understand that?... The education 
that you are getting now has some good points, but it has a tremendous 
disadvan°©tage which is so great that the good things are all weighed down. In 
the first place it is not a man-making education. it is merely and entirely a 
negative education. A negative education or any training that is based on 
negation, is worse than death.     ------------------------------------------   
  Life is a series of fights and disillusionments... The secret of life is not 
enjoyment but education through experience. But, alas, we are
 called off the moment we begin really to learn.     
-----------------------------------     The ideal of all education should be 
man-making. But instead of that, we are always trying to polish up the outside. 
What use is polishing the outside when there is no inside? The end of all 
training is to make the man grow.
Compare the great teachers of religion with the great philosophers. The 
philosophers scarcely influenced anybody's inner man, and yet they wrote 
marvelous books. The religion teachers, on the other hand, moved countries in 
their lifetimes. The difference was made by personality. In the philosopher it 
is the faint personality that influences. In the great prophets, it is 
tremendous. In the former we touch intellect, in the latter we touch life.
-From "Realization and its methods."     

Umesh Sharma

Washington D.C.

1-202-215-4328 [Cell]

Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005

http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)




www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used )




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Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005

http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)




www.gse.harvard.edu/iep  (where the above 2 are used )




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