Hi Sandip:
Thanks so much for helping me see the light on my own. Is there an
echo here? Where did I hear that before :-)?
But you missed the point.
Five years ago George Bush and the Republicans sold a bill of goods
to American people making Iraq out to be the villain that caused
9/11. But three years later the American people began to find out
that they were deceived, that the country went to war under false
pretenses. And they stood up, with its intelligentsia giving voice
to the outrage over the deception.
Today the Bush administration is in dire straights over the war. The
republicans were voted out of power in both the Congress and the
Senate. In 2008 it is quite likely, that the president will be a
democrat.
It shows that the American polity does care and participates in its
governance, unlike in India, its advertisements about its democratic
pretences notwithstanding.
Indian intelligentsia is composed of those who are its most
educated, its most informed. But its education is questionable.
Information does not obviously translate into education.
That is the bottom line.
That was the point I was making, but obviously with no success.
c-da
At 6:39 AM -0700 6/13/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
Dear C'dA,
Sorry for the late reply. Here are my replies. The intention of
making comparisions was to make you get to the answers on your own.
C-DA : Question however is WHAT have you learnt from what you know
What I have learnt is that your country can make a case for invasion
and go ahead with it - never mind what the rest of the world says.
So where is the question of the checks and balances???
The question is : What have YOU learnt. Your fundas that evolve from
a cozy chair vs. what the suffering humanity in Assam actually want
makes it certain that you dont have any takers in this forum. Yet
YOU DONT LEARN.
Your dramatic transformation into a supporter for the "cause" has
left many in this forum foxed - especially Chitta who's question
you have probably not answered.
Have you heard of the leninist term "Useful Idiot"? It was a term
invented to apply specifically to supporters of "revolutionary"
causes - ones who support the "cause" and serve as a useful
propaganda tool while being unaware of the organizations long term
goals.
Rgds,
Sandip
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am glad you do.
Question however is WHAT have you learnt from what you know?
From what I see and hear in this forum, is that you learnt NOTHING.
All you ( that includes a number of you) can cite when challenged
is that the USA does that too. And because USA does that, it is
quite acceptable to you, even though you spare no efforts to
denounce that?
Funny thing however, is that even though the USA does some of these
things, it has far superior checks and balances that are constantly
evolving, thanks to its intelligentsia's participation and interest
in shaping its governance, instead of citing somebody else's
examples mindlessly.
That is the difference.
At 2:24 AM -0700 6/7/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
Sondon Da,
Thats whats happening in Iraq as well and we all know who does it :-)
Rgds,
Sandip
----- Original Message ----
From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 3:06:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant
Hi Sandip:
No spinning here is necessary at all. Anyone who is even remotely
familiar with democratic states' laws modelled after the British
system, would know that there ARE instances where the police can
make warrantless arrests. Even an ordinary citizen can make what is
called a 'Citizens' Arrest', under some circumstances.
However that is entirely different from the Indian Govts. invoking
National Security to squelch and
even physically round-up political dissenters, without DUE PROCESS,
every time. Never mind that it is the govt. itself that precipitates
such political turmoil.
Umesh, Sandip etc. are probably as qualified to be Indian district
magistrates as any. Imagine their JUDGEMENT to order the arrest of
'potential troublemakers' , without warrants, on grounds of , among
other labels, ' terrorism' applied to political dissent!
That is the truly scary part.
cm
At 1:34 AM -0700 6/6/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
Lets hear the spin for this one :-)
Rgds,
Sandip
----- Original Message ----
From: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2007 2:30:08 AM
Subject: [Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant
C-da,
you mentioned that as per NAtional Security Act now Rajasthan state
govt can arrest without warrant -- it is legal in USA for long
--every high school graduate knows that -- how about you?
<http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/CM/Custom/arrest_without_warrant.asp>http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/CM/Custom/arrest_without_warrant.asp
Under the Act, district authorities are empowered to arrest without
warrant those indulging in arson.
Senior officers of the Army, which was called out
<http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/02rajriot9.htm>http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/02rajriot9.htm
Umesh Sharma
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